I use maps gas with silvafloss.
Have a great day!
Bill
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on
behalf of Roger Steyaert
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 4:41:16 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape
I have 12
try a 10 tower array. :-)
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> On Jun 5, 2020, at 10:33 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
> I spent a summer during my college years silver-soldering 120 radials to
> ground screens for each of the 4-tower array of WSAZ.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>> On 6/5/2020 2:41 PM, Roger Steyaert wrote:
I spent a summer during my college years silver-soldering 120 radials to
ground screens for each of the 4-tower array of WSAZ.
73, Jim K9YC
On 6/5/2020 2:41 PM, Roger Steyaert wrote:
that is why I high temperature silver soldered the wire and ground rods
together. Not normal soft solder but th
Brain cramp -- I meant KF7P.
73, Jim K9YC
On 6/5/2020 4:06 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
Huh? I don't sell them...
73, and thanks,
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ARRL Technical Specialist
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
On 6/5/20 10:53 AM, Jim Brown wro
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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 6:07:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape
On 6/5/2020 10:23 AM, Chris Waldrup wrote:
This is probably overkill for QRP but I wanted to do it right like
we used
to do in broadcast.
The primary purpose of grounding bonding has NOTHING to
!!!
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Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 2:14 PM
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Hey Jim,
If you think Cad-Welding
Huh? I don't sell them...
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
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On 6/5/20 10:53 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 6/5/2020 8:17 AM, Phil Kane wrote:
For our commercial and public safety
co
A way for us no longer young people to drive ground rods is with a SDS
construction hammer and a ground rod driving bit. that is what
electricians use. I have a layer of shale about 2 feet deep where I live
and it takes less that 10 minutes per 8 foot ground rod driven below the
surface with th
I have 12 ground rods in the ring ground system around my house with the
radios in one room inside. the ground rods are all tied to each other
and the power ground. I agree the Cad welds can get expensive, that is
why I high temperature silver soldered the wire and ground rods
together. Not nor
On 6/5/2020 12:01 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> I agree with Jim, K9YC on this. Grounding is for lightning
> protection. To be effective, it should be outside of the
> structure/house and be very low resistance. And all driven grounds
> must be bonded back to the AC Mains ground. This is per
Now that was cool. Actually very hot 😊
N2TK, Tony
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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:14 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape
Hey Jim,
If you
Or expense? Lessee... 20 (ground rods including 5 at the tower) times
$4 per clamp, vs $11-15 for little discernible gains.. adding over $300
in my grounding solution. Not a huge amount, but those costs add up
quickly. I went with clamps, all buried below grade.
I opted to tie the shop (bar
Mike,
They are all 8 foot rods and were driven vertically with a fence post
driver and then finished off with a sledge.
I was 20 years younger at that time, I could not do it today. 3 or 4
rods in a day was all the shoulders could manage.
Yes, we hit some small rocks, but they will split is h
craft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape
Yeah, maybe I'm one of the exceptions. I just used 20 of them to build a
lightning ground system for a new tower install. Easy to use and considerable
peace of mind knowing the joints created will last a long time u
It sure is! This was my first one, so I didn't really know what to
expect. I was a bit more casual with the rest, I admit:
https://youtu.be/j3MwokpxSco
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 10:48 AM Walter Underwood wrote:
>
> Cad-weld seems a easier than the other approach described. It is more robust
> aga
Don, Are those all 8 ft ground rods driven vertical in ground without help
from a rock drill? Lots of rock in your area? Mike AC5P
On Friday, June 5, 2020, 03:10:11 PM CDT, W2xj wrote:
To my mind, false economy.
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> On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
To my mind, false economy.
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> On Jun 5, 2020, at 3:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>
> That is why I used the mechanical clamps. I have 10 ground rods for a
> perimeter ground wire around the house, 6 on the perimeter ground around the
> workshop building (where the antenna f
1 TOWER 6000-20 k 1HOLE WITH CONCRETE $1000
HUNDREDS OF FEET OF LMR 600 , RG213 ETC
4 ANTENNAS $1600
ROTOR 1600
cadwelds for the 9 10 BURIED ground rodsat the tower and few more
at the house MUST be in the budget.
why stray from a great job for a few hundred bucks.
That is why I used the mechanical clamps. I have 10 ground rods for a
perimeter ground wire around the house, 6 on the perimeter ground around
the workshop building (where the antenna feedlines first enter) and
another 4 in the antenna field. A total of 20 Cad Welds would have
exceeded my b
20 6:07:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape
On 6/5/2020 10:23 AM, Chris Waldrup wrote:
> This is probably overkill for QRP but I wanted to do it right like we used
to do in broadcast.
The primary purpose of grounding bonding has NOTHING to do with radio --
it&#
I agree with Jim, K9YC on this. Grounding is for lightning
protection. To be effective, it should be outside of the
structure/house and be very low resistance. And all driven grounds
must be bonded back to the AC Mains ground. This is per NEC. Your
equipment, your house, and your life ma
In the mid-60's, on the other side of the planet, we ran missions
putting a transportable TACAN on the air for as long as the JP-4 for the
400 Hz turbine alternators lasted [~10-15 days]. Then, we piled all the
gear on top, several thermite packs on that, and pulled the tapes. It
reduced EVER
Just look at $11.00 per ground rod connection for Cad-Weld as compared
to $1.98 for a mechanical clamp. Which do you think a ham will choose ?
73
Bob, K4TAX
On 6/5/2020 12:46 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
Cad-weld seems a easier than the other approach described. It is more robust
against c
Anyone that would desire to have a proper and reliable installation for
connecting a conductor to a ground rod. Me for one!
To that end, I've visited many ham stations where it seems there is a
mish mash of equipment connected in a hap hazard manner. I view this
is far from good engineer
Neat!
Jim
On 6/5/2020 11:13 AM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:
Hey Jim,
If you think Cad-Welding a ground rod is fun to watch, take a look at
thermite welding of railroad tracks:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uxsFglz2ig
__
Elecraft mai
Right sir I understand. I just mean I don't have large towers and big antennas.
Just want be protected since we are up high.
Chris
> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:09 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
> On 6/5/2020 10:23 AM, Chris Waldrup wrote:
>> This is probably overkill for QRP but I wanted to do it right l
6:07:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape
On 6/5/2020 10:23 AM, Chris Waldrup wrote:
> This is probably overkill for QRP but I wanted to do it right like we used to
> do in broadcast.
The primary purpose of grounding bonding has NOTHING to do with radio --
i
On 6/5/2020 10:23 AM, Chris Waldrup wrote:
This is probably overkill for QRP but I wanted to do it right like we used to
do in broadcast.
The primary purpose of grounding bonding has NOTHING to do with radio --
it's for LIGHTNNG PROTECTION!
On 6/5/2020 10:46 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
> C
On 6/5/2020 8:17 AM, Phil Kane wrote:
For our commercial and public safety
communication site grounding systems our firm insists on cad-weld at all
exposed and buried connection points but I would suspect that very few
hams, let alone residential or even commercial electricians, would go to
that
Cad-weld seems a easier than the other approach described. It is more robust
against corrosion, plus it is fun.
I just don’t see a downside. :-)
wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> On Jun 5, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Phil Kane wrote:
>
> On 6/5/2020 9:05
Yeah, maybe I'm one of the exceptions. I just used 20 of them to build a
lightning ground system for a new tower install. Easy to use and considerable
peace of mind knowing the joints created will last a long time underground.
--
Art Greenberg
WA2LLN
a...@artg.tv
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, at 13:32,
On 6/5/2020 9:05 AM, Grant Youngman wrote:
> Cad-weld isn’t expensive — $11-15 per weld depending on where you buy
> the stuff. Typically sold in kits of 6 one-shot crucibles, and
> available for varying ground wire sizes on 1/2” or 5/8” ground rods.
Agreed, but how many of us would go through t
I meant to add I couldn't get the shots to fire with the sparking tool I
purchased so I ran down to a fireworks store and purchased a box of sparklers.
They do a ***fantastic*** job at ignition.
Then when you're done after things cool a few gentle taps with a hammer breaks
off the thin ceramic
Hi Phil,
I use Erico One Shot cad welds on my workshop grounding system. Everything is
tied together with cad welded bare 6 AWG and I have 8 foot ground rods,
although I had to drive them in at an angle. Our house is on top of a mountain
in TN and soil depth varies from probably 6 ft deep to ex
f Of Grant Youngman
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:05 PM
To: k2...@arrl.net
Cc: Elecraft Refl
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Self-fusing liquid electrical tape
Cad-weld isn’t expensive — $11-15 per weld depending on where you buy the
stuff. Typically sold in kits of 6 one-shot crucibles, and available fo
Cad-weld isn’t expensive — $11-15 per weld depending on where you buy the
stuff. Typically sold in kits of 6 one-shot crucibles, and available for
varying ground wire sizes on 1/2” or 5/8” ground rods.
Grant NQ5T
> On Jun 5, 2020, at 11:17 AM, Phil Kane wrote:
>
> On 6/4/2020 8:50 PM, Ed Tan
On 6/4/2020 8:50 PM, Ed Tanton wrote:
> I should have mentioned that. I strip 5 or 6 inches of insulation. That
> was why I cleaned the top of the ground rod and sprayed it with
> electrical lubricant. I used a stainless steel hose clamp to hold the
> stripped wires against the ground rod at each
I should have mentioned that. I strip 5 or 6 inches of insulation. That was
why I cleaned the top of the ground rod and sprayed it with electrical
lubricant. I used a stainless steel hose clamp to hold the stripped wires
against the ground rod at each end of the stripped wire portions. The next
On 6/3/2020 10:31 PM, Ed Tanton wrote:
> I mention all this as a response to the question about the use of liquid
> tape.
> I did all this working on the ground rods and radials connected under my
> HyGain HyTower.
What do you use to attach the ground wire(s) to the ground rod? Buckeyes?
73 de
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