[Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Geary recipe

2013-06-18 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I'm not sure who maintains Geary recipe these days (probably Rico), so I'm forwarding this to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jim Nelson Date: 2013/6/18 Subject: Geary recipe To: "Sergey \"Shnatsel\" Davidoff" Hello, Just to let you know, we recently performed a merge

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Grouping windows

2012-10-27 Thread Сергей
27.10.2012 22:36, satch...@gmail.com пишет: Four words: one application, one window. Problem solved. Yes, if possible disable animation :) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Grouping windows

2012-10-27 Thread Сергей
27.10.2012 22:27, Sergio Costas пишет: That's exactly what I was to say. You can also assign one keystroke to each workspace (I use Alt+1, Alt+2,... and so on) and change really fast. I don't think to replace workspace's, but If you placement frequently used application on different workspaces,

[Elementary-dev-community] Groping window

2012-10-27 Thread Сергей
Hello. I think, grouping window's could be useful feature. For example, if you frequently switching between 2 or 3 windows (IDE, browser, terminal) it's may be more productive with grouping. You can switch more faster and save focus on work. Current alt+tab diverts our attention. Same featur

[Elementary-dev-community] Grouping windows

2012-10-27 Thread Сергей
Hello. I think, grouping window's could be useful feature. For example, if you frequently switching between 2 or 3 windows (IDE, browser, terminal) it's may be more productive with grouping. You can switch more faster and save focus on work. Current alt+tab diverts our attention. Same featur

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] New plank concept

2012-10-27 Thread Сергей
Thank to all for response. I understood weaknesses of this idea. May be realized this in another dock. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More he

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] New plank concept

2012-10-25 Thread Сергей
Some fixes: first screenshot it's state, when windows are maximize or cover dock. if windows don't cover dock, dock look like on 4 screenshot(with icons). -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : http

[Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Need to redesign some icons in Elementary icon theme

2012-07-21 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I guess this belongs to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Tran Chau Thong Date: 2012/7/21 Subject: Need to redesign some icons in Elementary icon theme To: sebastianpo...@gmail.com Cc: shnat...@gmail.com, scholli...@yahoo.de Dear all, I am a user of Luna os and i realize

[Elementary-dev-community] Managing technical debt

2012-07-04 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Hey guys, Since we're getting closer to release, we'll inevitably end up cutting back on some architectural improvements, use some temporary hackish solutions or just don't merge some invasive fixes because it's too late in the cycle. As you probably know, this is called technical debt and it's OK

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
> > Now to you Sergey, I realize you are very passionate about what you do, > but sometimes you are too passionate about it as well. Cool down, don't > treaten with you leaving before having a open discussion with everyone, not > just one person(in this case Dan). Because that surely pissed off the

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
2012/7/4 Daniel Foré : > Replace "we" with "the elementary community" then. I think it was pretty > clear what he meant. Also works with Scott's examples. And using a passive impersonal construction (e.g. "nobody is getting paid...") also works. Cool! Still, Scott makes a valid point. Leaving me

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
> "We" are elementary. Replace "we" in every one of those instances with > "elementary" and perhaps it's more clear. Last time I checked nobody knew what elementary was. When Dan was asked this by Cassidy back in 2010 AFAIR, it was a philosophy. So, no, s/we/elementary/ doesn't make things any mo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
2012/7/4 Daniel Foré : > As Cassidy and I have both been trying to say, there has been absolutely no > change whatsoever to our "revenue model" > > As far as I am aware, the only change that is being made is to the design of > the homepage and hopefully the addition of accepting credit cards for >

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-07-03 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Okay, it's been a week. In addition, a Council meeting should have taken place three days ago. This seems to be quite enough time to settle on something and write a reply. To speed up the discussion, I stop pretending that everything is all right and cease any work on elementary till I receive an

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] no link to developer guide?

2012-06-29 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Developer guide is a work-in-progress, so it's hidden away for now. Moreover, the version in the website is outdated. An up-to-date draft can be found at http://tiny.cc/dev-guide-draft -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : el

[Elementary-dev-community] Summoning designers upon bug reports

2012-06-27 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Hey guys, as you have probably noticed, Launchpad no longer allows assigning a team of which you are not a member of to bug reports, so we can no longer use the established way of summoning designers upon bug reports. The current convention served two things: first, it generated an extra email to

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-06-26 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I may have not made it perfectly clear, but I'm not discussing the decision here. The way the decision was made is what I have a problem with. I appreciate that you consulted Canonical and Yorba, but at the same time you didn't consult your very own developers. A decision that affects developers gr

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-06-25 Thread Сергей Давыдов
2012/6/25 Eduard Gotwig > what you've done for the project was not only good, but essential - > especially for daily builds and the (super awsom new) build system :-) > Now I have one more thing to clarify XD The only "new build system" I made was refactoring the hell out of eBuild several time

[Elementary-dev-community] "I'm Quitting": we both overreacted

2012-06-25 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Yesterday I announced in #elementary-dev and #elementary-web that I'm quitting the project. Rumors spread fast and they're usually more scary than truth is, so I'm writing this to clarify what happened, what caused me to do that and "if I'm really quitting". *What happened* I'm attaching the cont

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] UX and OK Buttons

2012-06-17 Thread Сергей Давыдов
That's what our HIG suggests. It's good to stumble upon good conventions we already employ :) In fact we're several steps ahead: http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/ui-toolkit-elements/windows/dialogs I disagree with doing it the right way but neglecting platform consistency

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Re : GPL Comment

2012-06-17 Thread Сергей Давыдов
> Either way, I'll update the coding style. *From now on, we'll use the > second one*. This effectively means copyright assignment. This is a rather controversial topic; I'd prefer the council or town hall meeting to decide that. I cannot see any benefits of it in this particular case, and we d

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] USC Technical Requirements

2012-06-15 Thread Сергей Давыдов
There requirements are... where did you get them anyway? I bet this is as bull as the recommendation to use GTK2 and Python2 for apps targeting Ubuntu. Don't believe a word at developer.ubuntu.com Anyway, what we should be concerned about is getting our apps into Debian. It would both make our app

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3D & WMs in Luna

2012-05-23 Thread Сергей Давыдов
2012/5/24 Ivo Nunes > So, I've got LLVM pipe running on an ISO I built with Congrego. > > It has got a few problems, but I think I may be able to fix those. > It's flickering a bit in VirtualBox and Compiz is crashing sometimes. > > If we are indeed dropping 2D support, this can be very useful :)

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3D & WMs in Luna

2012-05-21 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Well, Nouveau is probably the only thing which STILL works with userspace modesetting, and no wonder nothing works for it. This should be fixed in the driver. I'm sorry, but we can't support such weird cases in the main release of Luna. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-commu

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3D & WMs in Luna

2012-05-21 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Also, I guess I should make a script which checks if softpipe is the only available driver during startup and if it is, display a message and power off the machine in some time or on key press.-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3D & WMs in Luna

2012-05-21 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Please try switching to TTY and installing Mutter from there. I wonder if it's Compiz's issue with softpipe or general problem of that "driver". - Исходное сообщение - > Shnatsel: Please take metacity back! Without metacity I can't work with > virtualbox, vmware and my nvidia graphics at

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] VirtualBox

2012-05-04 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Yes. VirtualBox 3D driver is tainted crap (see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw ) and unaccelerated fallback isn't handled very beautifully right now in Luna dailies. You'd better use VMware Player. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ele

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 5 ideas that every desktop OS should borrow

2012-05-02 Thread Сергей Давыдов
My upstream pull request didn't get any attention, so I made a standalone package with my configs. They should be production-ready, but it's always better to do some extra testing. So please install "ulatencyd-configs-elementary" from the testing ppa

[Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Is Synapse Launcher Dead ?

2012-05-01 Thread Сергей Давыдов
I guess this belongs to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Emre Ener Date: 2012/4/30 Subject: Is Synapse Launcher Dead ? To: victoredua...@gmail.com, davidrafago...@gmail.com, shnat...@gmail.com, lallenl...@gmail.com, c...@ssidyjam.es, cass...@elementaryos.org, em...@cassidyj

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Nachricht über Ihr Google-Profil: German Translation team discussion

2012-04-28 Thread Сергей
As far as I can tell from my Ubuntu translation experience, translation teams usually have extensive translation guidelines, which in turn use GNOME conventions as a base (see http://live.gnome.org/de/Uebersetzung ) There are also Launchpad translation guidelines for some languages (see https://hel

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Question #193884 : Questions : Marlin

2012-04-27 Thread Сергей
> > This could actually be a good thing because we could have Marlin back with > Contractor and Granite and everything. Well, we already have it with Contractor in elementary daily PPA, thanks to Tom Beckmann. He also investigated porting it back to Granite. it doesn't handle networks well Shoul

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Dexter...

2012-04-27 Thread Сергей
> > I am wondering if we should scrap Dexter and just ship > gnome-contacts, perhaps with a patch or 2 to make the toolbar match > ours. Well, that's what was originally intended... AFAIR some parts of GNOME Contacts were screwed (e.g. autotools-based build system didn't work and it was impossibl

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Should we use Burg insted of Grub?

2012-04-23 Thread Сергей
2012/4/23 Ivo Nunes > Doesn't BURG break plymouth? > It does, but only in certain cases which should not be observed on latest Ubuntu (AFAIK and in theory, though). And Google knows some workarounds, too. Not to mention Plymouth has only one real use case by now and the best thing it can do is t

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Should we use Burg insted of Grub?

2012-04-23 Thread Сергей
Hello Andre! Yes, of couse we're interested in BURG! We have a blueprintabout using it for quite a while already (you can read what blueprints are and why we use them here)

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 5 ideas that every desktop OS should borrow

2012-04-20 Thread Сергей
2012/4/20 Victor Eduardo > +1 > > I'll have a look into ulatency's dbus interface and ulatency's code. > Hopefully we will be able to write a secure C program for this purpose. > I'll send you the source code when I have a prototype ready. > Victor, please use "reply to all" so the message is se

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 5 ideas that every desktop OS should borrow

2012-04-18 Thread Сергей
2012/4/18 Victor Eduardo > Hey Sergey, all these are awesome ideas! > > I can rewrite your script on my free time (i.e. after I'm done with > relevant Noise stuff). Coding it in directly C might be safer in my > opinion. Did you push it to some branch? > > Regards, > Victor > Hey Victor, I'm gl

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 5 ideas that every desktop OS should borrow

2012-04-16 Thread Сергей
Hi Cassidy, thanks for your reply! Yeah, priority by focus is a great idea. And so simple. Ingenious things are always simple :D I have a proof-of-concept implementation, but it conflicts with prioritizing apps by default with ulatencyd because it sets priority to higher-than-normal value on focus

[Elementary-dev-community] 5 ideas that every desktop OS should borrow

2012-04-15 Thread Сергей
Hey guys, Since I'm responsible for the OS in elementary Project, I keep an eye on recent advancements of other operating systems and do some R&D myself. However, I cannot really work on low-level OS enhancements. F

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Current state of Slingshot

2012-04-13 Thread Сергей
Cairo animations don't work well even on med-end machines, and the Clutter branch simply doesn't havwe any animations and switches pages instantly if no hardware acceleration is available. Or so I was told - I haven't tested that scenario myself because ubuntu currently defaults to using the terrib

[Elementary-dev-community] Obtaining backtrace

2012-04-12 Thread Сергей
Hello again, I got kinda tired of explaining people how to obtain a backtrace over and over, and the relevant page in ubuntu wiki is just too generic and bloated, so I made a screencast - well, consolecast, to be precise. Here it is: http://shelr.tv/records/4f86ffc0966080796f18 Might be usefu

[Elementary-dev-community] Current state of Slingshot

2012-04-12 Thread Сергей
Hello everyone, Those of us who test daily builds regularly probably remember xapantu's clutter-based Slingshot; it was merged to trunk branch and was available from daily PPA for a while, but then it was reverted to the old Cairo-based version because it introduced new bugs that made Slingshot ha

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Building Granite

2012-04-07 Thread Сергей
Looks like you need newer Glib (but it's not my area of expertise, so I may be mistaken), and no, it's never safe to upgrade Glib. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchp

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Dynamic Notebook and building

2012-04-05 Thread Сергей
Sounds like you don't have the latest Granite development files installed. DynamicNotebook was introduced after 0.1 release. 2012/4/4, David Gomes : > Trying to build pantheon-terminal-new, and I get this: > > /home/david/src/pantheon-terminal-new/src/MainWindow.vala:50.17-50.31: > error: The type

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Daily Builds

2012-04-05 Thread Сергей
Yes, it's a known bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/972940). Try "metacity --replace" in terminal, it should fix that. If you want Compiz, run "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager" and import the Pantheon profile (see archives of this mailing list for instructuions).

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
Hmm, the version attached to the bug report is much better. Stuff got lots on multiple imports/exports? Cassidy, looks like you'll have to review wthe diffs and merge useful parts back to your file... -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elem

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
This one? https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-design/+junk/compizprofile -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
Oh, I forgot to explain how to import. Here's how: 1) Install CompizConfig Settings Manager ($ sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager) 2) Click "Preferences" at the bottom of the sidebar 3) Under "Profile" header click "Import" button and select the file you grabbed from the bug report

[Elementary-dev-community] elementary Compiz profile needs testing

2012-04-03 Thread Сергей
Hey guys, Cassidy did a great job putting together a draft of Compiz profile for Luna and testing it on a variety of hardware; however, it could really use a wider testing - on more hardware and in more use cases. While I'm figuring out how to package it, please test it for a few days in Pantheon

[Elementary-dev-community] pantheon-wallpaper won't make it

2012-03-29 Thread Сергей
Hello everybody, it's hard to admit it, but pantheon-wallpaper probably won't make it for Luna. It has dreadful bugs like https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-wallpaper/+bug/814948 or https://bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-wallpaper/+bug/886633 and no active maintainer. Moreover, I think it's no long

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] What website should we use?

2012-03-27 Thread Сергей
When/if we implement the new Discover pages in the website, you can link to the Discover page of your application in the website, which will in turn link to Launchpad project. Until then, IMHO using LP project is better. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-communit

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About dialog Copyright style

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей
"Copyright (c)" without any GPL notices feels proprietary. Come on, I'm free to share this app, let the about stand out a bit with that fact! -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : http

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About dialog Copyright style

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей Давыдов
Oh btw, that screenie shows a bug in egtk.-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About dialog Copyright style

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей Давыдов
IMHO neither. Mentioning the GPL is a good idea, but Scratch exposes the "negative" side of it. I'd rather use something like "You are free to redistribute this application under the terms of GNU General Public Licence version 3 (link) or higher"... Uh, I mean, ask Cassidy for some honeyed words

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Changing the name of Pantheon Terminal

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей
I beleive branding it as "Panther" is more likely to get it some market share outside Pantheon. I'm not sure if it's desired or not. I support using "Web browser" and "Mail" insted of "Midori" and "Postler" (or "Geary" or whatever the merged app is called now), but I don't think it should go that

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Changing the name of Pantheon Terminal

2012-03-26 Thread Сергей
2012/3/26 Cassidy James : > I think it's important that it be referred to as Terminal on the desktop > itself, and Pantheon Terminal simply describes that it was designed for our > DE. It's similar to how there's GNOME Terminal, GNOME Calculator, etc. when > they're just referred to as Terminal and

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary GTK theme 3.0

2012-03-24 Thread Сергей
My previous attempts to set it via dconf failed, but GNOME Tweak Tool and re-login worked. Dogfooding now (om nom nom). Bugs so far: https://bugs.launchpad.net/egtk/+bug/963660, https://bugs.launchpad.net/egtk/+bug/964086. Hope the second one is a duplicate and I'm not the first to report this. --

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Last news from Maya

2012-03-22 Thread Сергей
2012/3/22 Andre Santos : > Great work man! > > Just a little thing, no even worth of a bug report: the package doesn't > requires contractor when installed. Crashed a lot before I realized that I > didin't have contractor on my machine. Dependence error? Dependency error, probably my bad. This req

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Last news from Maya

2012-03-22 Thread Сергей
Amazing work guys! I've checked it out at it a while ago, and I'll test again ASAP! By the way, your milestones look very organized, props and kudos for that! 0.1 "Patrick Star" is your initial release milestone, right? Could you rename it to luna-beta1 "Patrick Star" so the work items can be trac

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] BeatBox Perfomance

2012-03-14 Thread Сергей
Looks like I should go find a profiler. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OS daily builds are finally set up

2012-03-13 Thread Сергей
A quick update / important notice: we've reclaimed our old Sourceforge project, and the builds are now located at https://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/ Today's build is already uploaded. Let's see if zsync works for this new location! -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OS daily builds are finally set up

2012-03-11 Thread Сергей
> > Even better: > 2) $ md5sum -c downloaded.iso.md5 > This will automatically check integrity and report OK if correct. > Wow, thanks, I wasn't aware of that! -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe

[Elementary-dev-community] OS daily builds are finally set up

2012-03-11 Thread Сергей
Hey guys, Just wanted to let you know that we have finally set up daily builds of elementary OS. Right now the process is not really automated, it's just me building an image and uploading it manually. I'll be building only i386 images for now because our bugs are extremely unlikely to be architec

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Zeitgeist Privacy Pane

2012-03-11 Thread Сергей
> > 1) When creating the switchboard plug, the same codebase, a separate > file can be > added which uses this VBox to populate the plug > > 2) Then the build system needs to be altered to build this plug > optionally since alm is used > in many other environments too > > If someone from elementary

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] LibVTE security issue

2012-03-07 Thread Сергей
GNOME Terminal also uses libvte, and so does any other terminal I can think of. A fix will be released in time for Luna, there are more than enough interested parties already. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@list

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Zeitgeist Ordering for Contractor

2012-03-07 Thread Сергей
Sounds good to me, this was already discussed back when Marlin had "open with" in sidebar. Go ahead: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/granite/+addspec -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscri

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Backporting the Theme to Jupiter

2012-03-05 Thread Сергей
I doubt the new GTK2 theme is ready release. Also, that theme with dark menus if kind of identity for Jupiter; it's been there for almost a year and I wouldn't expect the look and feel to change suddenly after all that time. In addition, the new GTK theme is supposed to be used with the new icon th

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Website - Syntax Highlighting

2012-03-02 Thread Сергей
Andrew, this is exactly what we've been looking for to make our developer guide more readable! -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff elementary OS integrator -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Reading files of RAW/DNG format

2012-02-27 Thread Сергей
Hi Kumar! A quick search in Synaptic returned libraw, I guess it will do. You might also want to look at how existing apps do that and what libraries do they use. On an unrelated note, IMHO Darktable is good enough to improve it instead of creating yet-another-photo-app. I'm neither a developer n

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer guide

2012-02-21 Thread Сергей
Regarding addressing some items first... I agree that there are some critical things to be addressed, but there will always be room for improvement, and polishing some unused doc over and over to suit some hypothetical concerns is really, really boring. I suggest we release a beta so we can get som

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Developer guide

2012-02-21 Thread Сергей
Yeah, I'm pretty sure text-bound comments will work better for bug reports. However, having a dedicated work item tracker also sounds good - not every task can be bound to a specific piece of text. Right now we have just one blueprint for the whole doc, I'm afraid it won't be effective enough. So..

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Software Center

2012-02-21 Thread Сергей
2012/2/21 Sergio Spinatelli > Cool! Is there already a LP page to check out? :) Sergio, I beleive it's https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-centerproject, https://code.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-software-center-team/lubuntu-software-center/vala-portbranch. Stephen, it's always great to hear abou

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Building Granite on Arch

2012-02-19 Thread Сергей
Looks like it uses an deprecated API and doesn't manifest requiring some pkg-config package for it. That was the reason for notorious Glib build failures on Precise: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wingpanel/+bug/912224 (the bug is marked invalid because it's Vala's fault, not ours). -- shnatsel -- Ma

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Contractor web services authentication application

2012-02-18 Thread Сергей
Fabian and me did a bit of digging on GNOME Online Accounts and they turned out to be rather disappointing. It uses OAuth - authentication method meant for web apps. So you can't just enter username and password in Switchboard once and for all - you must have internet connection, click a button tha

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Maya starts up and flashes, hard to close.

2012-02-15 Thread Сергей
Hey Brendan, I'm forwarding your message to our development mailing list. People in there should be able to help you out. However, Maya probably will not be a goal for Luna, and considering how close the feature freeze is, most likely there always will be higher priority goals. P.S. Please use "r

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Granite] 0.1

2012-02-11 Thread Сергей
hum... somebody poke MPT? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: Adding Pantheon to the Desktop Enviroments

2012-02-11 Thread Сергей
Fabian, thank you so much! I've added these files to pantheon-xsession-settings package, and the fix has already landed to the daily PPA. I've also made gnome-settings-daemon a required component for gnome-session and removed it from cerbere's default list of daemons. If you're having trouble with

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Free Software

2012-01-17 Thread Сергей
Jupiter ships Broadcom firmware with questionable status (from Ubuntu repos), I think we're not going to do it again in Luna. Except that non-free additions were included or planned planned, as far as I know. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary UX and design team

2012-01-17 Thread Сергей
Yes, that's why there's a separate team that doesn't have direct access to code but can propose code for merging into main branch. I think we should set up something similar with design. This way we'll get more designers involved (we're growing all the time and *will* need more designers sooner or

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary UX and design team

2012-01-16 Thread Сергей
Because the current one is not open. An open team could get more designers involved and accustomed with our vision/hig/whatever. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary UX and design team

2012-01-15 Thread Сергей
Wait. ~elementary-design is there for ages. I thought you're going to create something like ~elementary-driveby... -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementa

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Greeter

2012-01-14 Thread Сергей
Since yesterday or so installing pantheon-greeter package should make it work. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Granite] First release (dicussion)

2012-01-11 Thread Сергей
Looks like Kus clicked "Reply" instead of "Reply to all" - I haven't seen his message at least -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : ht

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] [Granite] First release (dicussion)

2012-01-10 Thread Сергей
I thought Granite.Init was already introduced, and added to Granite.Application... weird. I'm pretty sure LGPL was already agreed upon. I saw several "I agree" posts on the ML at least. And yes, Contractor methods seem to be a mess. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Countdown Widget

2012-01-10 Thread Сергей
Circular progressbars is a rather old idea, it was already proposed for GTK I don't think it's a good idea to adopt it as a widget, though. I can't see why would you want a countdown for deleting multiple files or closing a browser full of tabs. Eidete seems to be fine with its current countdown,

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] SOPA

2012-01-09 Thread Сергей
I can't see SOPA/PIPA directly affecting elementary. We hardly have any user-posted content on the website, and the one we have tends to be freely licensed. We do rely on external services like imagebin, pastebin, etc, but that's not vital and we could probably host something similar ourselves. For

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Closing last tab

2012-01-07 Thread Сергей
Oh, and I've just revised https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution, it now works well without the minimize button, and I'm finally happy with it. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-communi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Closing last tab

2012-01-07 Thread Сергей
Well, Terminal might be an exception due to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal/+spec/background-execution It also has to do with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/granite/+spec/tabbar I think we could leave the tab be and allow it to be recalled from the "Closed tabs" menu. But in th

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About Dexter Contacts...

2012-01-05 Thread Сергей
I'm pretty sure upstream is not going to consider our UI changes or CMake, so... I'm pretty sure that they are not going to consider our changes. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launch

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Calendar application in Ubuntu 12.04

2012-01-05 Thread Сергей
Last time I checked the backend was complete, except creating calendars in evolution-data-server. This operation is performed only once, on first startup, so at the moment maya won't work until evolution is launched at least once. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.n

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] About Dexter Contacts...

2012-01-05 Thread Сергей
I believe a fork is justifiable here. It's no more than a UI to libfolks, and patching out upstream UI changes and applying them to the changed codebase probably will be more tedious than just maintaining a fork. I also believe that in this particular case autotools are severely misused, and the so

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Build issues in Ubuntu Precise

2012-01-05 Thread Сергей
I've created a bug report and included all affected apps I could find. https://bugs.launchpad.net/maya/+bug/912224 -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-communi

[Elementary-dev-community] Build issues in Ubuntu Precise

2012-01-05 Thread Сергей
Hello everybody, Most of you have probably already noticed that some elementary apps continuously fail to build for Ubuntu Precise in elementary PPAs. Fabian Thoma has tracked the issues down; they are caused by the deprecation of Glib thread API

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Slingshot old version

2011-12-30 Thread Сергей
They seem to be either aware of existence of a newer version, either intentionally providing a malformed installer, or completely unaware of anything at all. Providing only an i386 .deb in some dropbox is weird at least. Press team actually consists of 1 person and they seem to be very busy IRL; m

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Icons 3.0

2011-12-28 Thread Сергей
Yesterday's build is broken, so I ended up redoing the whole thing with minimal diversion from Ubuntu packaging. Should be much more robust now. Upgrade to version 3.0-0~r906+pkg19 to get 3.0 icons working. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to :

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Design Team

2011-12-27 Thread Сергей
Yeah, I agree. You should subscribe the team, not assign it, though. Added to meeting agenda. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More

[Elementary-dev-community] Icons 3.0

2011-12-26 Thread Сергей
3.0 branch is now available from the daily ppa . The packagingis a bit ugly, but should do until we get 3.0 branch into Ubuntu. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list:

[Elementary-dev-community] elementary OS seeds are now shiny

2011-12-25 Thread Сергей
Hey guys, I just wanted to let you know that I've refactored our metapackages system, now it features more complete dependency lists and there is one place to change them instead of two. I've also updated and fixed our OS seeds (lists of packages to include - that's where metapackages and OS image

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Icons 3.0

2011-12-22 Thread Сергей
To be honest, I'm totally swamped IRL, so the update probably won't land in the PPA till Saturday. -- shnatsel -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Debian and elementary apps

2011-12-20 Thread Сергей
Apps are supposed to build and work properly on Debian, most likely they will require Debian Testing. I don't think we have any Ubuntu-specific stuff hardcoded into the apps. The only incompatibility I'm aware of are Ayatana/KDE indicators in Wingpanel. By "Pantheon" you probably mean "Pantheon S

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Pantheon Team

2011-12-19 Thread Сергей
The problem is that the teams are not created yet. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/management-team -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-co

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