[Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour change in 2.8

2020-04-07 Thread Rene Hopf via Emc-developers
Hi, There are a few things I would like to change in 2.8. 1. Fix pocket numbers I rebased my pocket number fix to 2.8, and it seems to work ok. https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/tree/2.8-pocket-fix The branch based on 2.6 has been test

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Reinhard
Hi, On Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 16:13:07 CEST Rene Hopf via Emc-developers wrote: > 1. Fix pocket numbers I'm no developer, but please allow me to bubble a few thoughts about tooltable, atc, pockets, slots, ... I'm quite unlucky to work on a machine, where I have to struggle with atc- slots. Bu

Re: [Emc-developers] multi spindle design choice question

2020-04-07 Thread Chris Morley
I did some more playing with this in MDI and manual: Setting the s code to a particular spindle (with %) will from then on always controls that spindle with a plain s code. Not sure if that is on purpose but i wouldn't think so. As you said if you don't set the s code with $ then only spindle 0

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 16:36, Reinhard wrote: > I believe, that its a big overshoot to put the tooltable in the nml-status- > area. Tooltable-properties are quite seldom requested by ui, so it would be > sufficient, if the table or parts of it would be served at request only. I agree. I think tha

Re: [Emc-developers] multi spindle design choice question

2020-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 16:39, Chris Morley wrote: > Setting the s code to a particular spindle (with %) will from then on always > controls that spindle with a plain s code. Not sure if that is on purpose but > i wouldn't think so. I started with the idea of a "current spindle" but largely aba

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 April 2020 11:34:22 Reinhard wrote: > Hi, > > On Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 16:13:07 CEST Rene Hopf via Emc-developers wrote: > > 1. Fix pocket numbers > > I'm no developer, but please allow me to bubble a few thoughts about > tooltable, atc, pockets, slots, ... > > I'm quite unlucky

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Rene Hopf via Emc-developers
> On 7. Apr 2020, at 18:15, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 07 April 2020 11:34:22 Reinhard wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 16:13:07 CEST Rene Hopf via Emc-developers > wrote: >>> 1. Fix pocket numbers >> >> I'm no developer, but please allow me to bubble a few thoughts

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 17:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > In any event I'm opposed t0 the automatic reload of the last tool. I home > to a safe position, and I sure don't want the last tool used loaded > leading to a crash and broken tool when I fire up linuxcnc the next day. So you remove the tool, bu

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour change in 2.8

2020-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 15:14, Rene Hopf via Emc-developers wrote: > 1. > Fix pocket numbers > I rebased my pocket number fix to 2.8, and it seems to work ok. Can you describe the differences? There have been many iterations at this. I don't have a tool changer, but I think that at the moment the

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour change in 2.8

2020-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 15:14, Rene Hopf via Emc-developers wrote: > Where do I need to document the changes, so they show up in the release notes? https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/docs/src/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.txt and https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/2.8/debia

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour change in 2.8

2020-04-07 Thread mydani
Hello Rene Did u run all the tests successfully in your rebase? I put some changes on top of your work, to totally distinguish between tool table index and pocket. Regards Daniel Rene Hopf via Emc-developers schrieb am Di. 7. Apr. 2020 um 16:14: > Hi, > There are a few things I would like to

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 April 2020 12:26:23 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 17:17, Gene Heskett wrote: > > In any event I'm opposed t0 the automatic reload of the last tool. I > > home to a safe position, and I sure don't want the last tool used > > loaded leading to a crash and broken tool when I

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 18:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So you remove the tool, but don't tell LinuxCNC? > > Said that way Andy, yes. I do not shut down with a holder on the post, > nor do I home the next morning with a tool on the post. In either event, I don't really see what your perceived probl

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 1:45 PM > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour > > On Tuesday 07 April 2020 12:26:23 andy pugh wrote: > > > On Tue, 7 A

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 April 2020 14:04:11 andy pugh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 18:47, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > So you remove the tool, but don't tell LinuxCNC? > > > > Said that way Andy, yes. I do not shut down with a holder on the > > post, nor do I home the next morning with a tool on the post. >

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 19:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That's currently 1000 tools. Unlikely to be a problem for many. > > When did that happen? 4 hours ago. Do keep up :-) https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/commit/b51ef8cc3c560b6c44d095814988a3f972bc0763 -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle w

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 2:41 PM > To: EMC developers > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour > > On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 19:30, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > That's currently 1000 tools. Unlikely to

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Rene Hopf via Emc-developers
> On 7. Apr 2020, at 20:47, Ken Strauss wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 2:41 PM >> To: EMC developers >> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour >> >> On Tue, 7 Apr 2020 at 19:30, Gene He

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour change in 2.8

2020-04-07 Thread Rene Hopf via Emc-developers
> On 7. Apr 2020, at 19:03, mydani wrote: > > Did u run all the tests successfully in your rebase? I put some changes on > top of your work, to totally distinguish between tool table index and > pocket. Where can I find them? Did you have any problems with the branch?

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Jeff Johnson
How does it affect the Fanuc style tool change? T0101 or T0406? Just asking as I may have to update some day. Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -Original Message- From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 2:41 PM

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 07 April 2020 14:09:43 Ken Strauss wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 1:45 PM > > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour > > > > On

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Rene Hopf via Emc-developers
> On 7. Apr 2020, at 20:47, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > How does it affect the Fanuc style tool change? T0101 or T0406? Is this documented anywhere? I can test it. > > Just asking as I may have to update some day. > > Jeff Johnson > john...@superiorroll.com > Superior Roll & Turning > 734-279-

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Jeff Johnson
I believe it’s a just lathe thing Lathe-fanucy.tbl Jeff Johnson john...@superiorroll.com Superior Roll & Turning 734-279-1831 -Original Message- From: Rene Hopf via Emc-developers [mailto:emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 3:11 PM To: EMC developers

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Rene Hopf via Emc-developers
> On 7. Apr 2020, at 21:15, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > I believe it’s a just lathe thing > Lathe-fanucy.tbl Yes, it works. ___ Emc-developers mailing list Emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Ken Strauss
> -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2020 3:08 PM > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour Assuming that you use > > premeasured tools (I have about 50 ready to go) >

Re: [Emc-developers] Bugfixing

2020-04-07 Thread Chris Morley
Thanks Andy - I guess we are not used to all the activity lately! It's good. as far as that bug fix goes - I'll leave it to you which one you think you want. I added the other screen's fix for the same bug already Chris On 2020-04-06 5:03 p.m., andy pugh wrote: It's great to see so much bu

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Reinhard
Hi On Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 18:07:09 CEST andy pugh wrote: > But, very often, the tool change process is handled by HAL components > and G-code remaps, and in that case it is useful for LinuxCNC to help > out ... Sure! I thought about implementation of a "complicated" atc, like a chaotic stor

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Reinhard
Hi, On Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 19:45:12 CEST Gene Heskett wrote: > We may need only 5 or 6 tools to finish > that part of the job, so a named tool table with 10 entry's seems like a > better solution to me. Not sure, whether I understand you right, but 10 entries in tooltable is too limited. I

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Reinhard
Hi, On Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 18:15:56 CEST Gene Heskett wrote: > In any event I'm opposed t0 the automatic reload of the last tool. Well, linuxcnc should save the tool number of the tool in the spindle in persistent state, where it could be reloaded if necessary. I often have the problem, th

Re: [Emc-developers] Toolchange and tlo behaviour

2020-04-07 Thread Reinhard
Hi, On Dienstag, 7. April 2020, 20:09:43 CEST Ken Strauss wrote: > Assuming that you use premeasured > tools (I have about 50 ready to go) requiring multiple tool tables will > create far more problems than it solves. For just two new problems: > 1) Assume that I break, replace and remeasure tool