Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-18 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Na 18.9.2010 3:19, Jon Elson je pisal: Slavko Kocjancic wrote: And I like to complete EMC2 in way as is. FREE! Emc is Free so the some board should be free too. Just to completely address your point, there SHOULD be some open-source hardware accessories for EMC2. Samco has an open-source

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-18 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Na 17.9.2010 23:15, Kenneth Lerman je pisal: On 09/17/2010 04:26 AM, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: Peter thanks. I didn't realy calculate the worst case scenario. Just observed that acceleration is calculated on servo thread. And finding reliable PC to got 5kHz servo isn't so hard as finding

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-18 Thread Yi-Shin Li
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Slavko Kocjancic esla...@gmail.com wrote: Na 17.9.2010 23:15, Kenneth Lerman je pisal: On 09/17/2010 04:26 AM, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: Peter thanks. I didn't realy calculate the worst case scenario. Just observed that acceleration is calculated on

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-18 Thread Ron Bean
Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com But, I think the difficulty of making your own boards for FPGAs, and then building them and testing them may have made this too complicated for the average tinkerer. Without a logic analyzer and an oscilloscope, if it doesn't work, it could be real hard to

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-18 Thread Jonathan George
HEY.. That's not nice! I know that developing take time... But EMC programmers doesn't charge for many hours they 'wasted'. ... and support and... ... .. If you have enougth money to buy $7000 machine then there is stupid think to save $97 here... But if you check what is most

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-18 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Just thanks... if someone like to try AND learn then DIY boards are cheap. Otherwise... you already write... ...thanks nice letter. 2010/9/18 Jonathan George geo01...@gmail.com HEY.. That's not nice! I know that developing take time... But EMC programmers doesn't charge

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-18 Thread Jon Elson
Slavko Kocjancic wrote: As I know the EPP should be easy to interface (timing model) but the hardware is so different and need some pullup's in some case's. Actually, the EPP is a real MESS! The spec is very poorly defined, and the timing between data appearing on the bus and the

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
developersemc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net To: EMC developersemc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-developers] StepGen Hello I'm use EMC with 25uS base period. This came little coarse now as I get stronger motors for my machine. So I look under the hood of emc how works

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Na 17.9.2010 10:53, Andy Pugh je pisal: On 17 September 2010 09:16, Slavko Kocjancicesla...@gmail.com wrote: but with EMC that wil be like that 250,250,250,250, (new servo thread calc), 245, 245, 245, 245, I thinking to put stepgen in microcontroller as finding good PC with lattency

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Andy Pugh
On 17 September 2010 10:18, Slavko Kocjancic esla...@gmail.com wrote: I looking to mesa for $79 and I can live with that but they doesn't support quadrature output as all my drives are not STEP/DIR but are phase drives or quadrature. Hostmot2 does Quadrature output, but not any of the phase

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Andy Pugh
On 17 September 2010 10:55, Slavko Kocjancic esla...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting.. But that line in docu seems taht something is strange here... the stepgen outputs one complete Gray cycle (00 - 01 - 11 - 10 - 00) for each step it takes. I suspect a documentation error. -- atp

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:55:51 +0200 From: Slavko Kocjancic esla...@gmail.com Reply-To: EMC developers emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net To: EMC developers emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen Hmm

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, Andy Pugh wrote: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:35:52 +0100 From: Andy Pugh a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk Reply-To: EMC developers emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net To: EMC developers emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen On 17 September

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Jon Elson
Slavko Kocjancic wrote: I had 3axis machine and work happy with 1000mm/min. But if I drive same motor/driver/machine with 555 timer and translator I can get over 2500mm/min. So EMC2 probably has too much jitter. I think you would find the hardware step generator boards help greatly with

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Na 17.9.2010 18:35, Jon Elson je pisal: Slavko Kocjancic wrote: I had 3axis machine and work happy with 1000mm/min. But if I drive same motor/driver/machine with 555 timer and translator I can get over 2500mm/min. So EMC2 probably has too much jitter. I think you would find the hardware

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Kenneth Lerman
On 09/17/2010 04:26 AM, Slavko Kocjancic wrote: Peter thanks. I didn't realy calculate the worst case scenario. Just observed that acceleration is calculated on servo thread. And finding reliable PC to got 5kHz servo isn't so hard as finding good one with 15us base jitter. For 1kHz servo

Re: [Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-17 Thread Jon Elson
Slavko Kocjancic wrote: And I like to complete EMC2 in way as is. FREE! Emc is Free so the some board should be free too. Just to completely address your point, there SHOULD be some open-source hardware accessories for EMC2. Samco has an open-source step-direction servo drive (not EMC

[Emc-developers] StepGen

2010-09-16 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
Hello I'm use EMC with 25uS base period. This came little coarse now as I get stronger motors for my machine. So I look under the hood of emc how works. Now I get confused how all thing works. If I understand correctly the stepgen (in base period) just make pulse if needed but all the