Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)-- Japanese Jate Mark

2003-01-03 Thread John Barnes
Dan, http://www.bay-labels.com/agency_marks.htmnumber 44 is identified as the Japanese Jate Mark, from the Japan Approvals Institute for Telecommunications Equipment. It is a Telecommunications Terminal Equipment Conformity mark-- see

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread John Barnes
Dan, If you go tohttp://www.cellotape.com/contents.pdfpage 9, is symbol 139 the one that is on your wireless unit? They don't tell what the symbols mean in this design guide, but maybe someone can recognize it now... John Barnes KS4GL, PE, NCE, ESDC Eng, SM IEEE

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Gary: As a result of searching for my copy of the indoor use only symbol, I discovered that I have a reference to the standard where the symbol is published: DIN 30 600 Reg. No. 02808-3 If one of our subscribers has a copy of this standard, perhaps he could verify the reference.

RE: Multiple CPU Options

2003-01-03 Thread Sam Wismer
Thanks for the input from everyone. Based on the input, I have come to the opinion that pre-scans on all CPU configurations according to ANSI C63.4 should be carried out and a final scan performed on the worst case configuration of those, assuming nothing too drastically different rears its head

Re: EN 55103 declaration

2003-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that boconn...@t-yuden.com wrote (in F7E9180F6F7F58 40858d3db815e4f7ad1f2...@cms21.t-yuden.com) about 'EN 55103 declaration' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: What is the rationale given for some people not accepting an EN standard issued by BSI? My employer typically buys EN

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200301031730.jaa10...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: Since one of our members could not decipher the symbol, I question the value of the symbol to laymen and therefore its inclusion in

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread John Barnes
Dan, Gary, http://www.ksqlab.com/overseas/ove_bsmi.htm briefly discusses the Chinese National Standards and the CNS Mark, and shows two marks. Neither one of them looks like a C with a lightning bolt to me, however... http://www.ofco.com.tw/company.asp shows the same two marks. Some other

RE: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread Gary McInturff
Thanks to all that have identified the first symbol as in-door use (what I thought). So far no information on the other symbol, but I should have noted that it wasn't on the power supply but another little wireless device. I tried looking in the Wifi websites to see if they mentioned it

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: It is not an ISO or IEC symbol. It is either in IEC60417 already or will be in the future. It is not currently in IEC 60417. (I have no visibility as to future adoption of this symbol into IEC 60417.) Since one of our members could not decipher the symbol, I question

RE: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread Gary McInturff
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:33 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: strange symbols (to me anyway) I read in !emc-pstc that Wan Juang Foo f...@np.edu.sg wrote (in of39a8a68f.ebf7ed21-on48256ca3.00237...@np.edu.sg) about

RE: New OJEC publication of lists of harmonized standards for LVD ATEX directives

2003-01-03 Thread ggars...@us.tuv.com
...I checked 93/42/EEC via the link below and OJ C310 has not been incorporated into the what's new standards list. As I understand it, the OJ is definitive (but as we have seen, not necessarily free from errors and omissions!). http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/ne

RE: EN 55103 declaration

2003-01-03 Thread boconn...@t-yuden.com
Sir What is the rationale given for some people not accepting an EN standard issued by BSI? My employer typically buys EN stds from BSI. Is there something different about BSI-printed standards? thanks for info. R/S, Brian O'Connell Taiyo Yuden (USA), Inc. -Original Message-

Re: EN 55103 declaration

2003-01-03 Thread john.radom...@modicon.com
For testing purposes, we use EN 55103:1996 Parts 1 2 but our EU Declaration of conformity states compliance with BS EN 55103:1997 Parts 1 2. As the majority of our products are exported to mainland Europe should we specify compliance with the EN or BS EN version of the standards? Happy New

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread Dan Irish - Sun BOS Hardware
All, My apologies if this is message is a duplicate-- I think I replied only to Gary the first time... I believe the second mark that Gary describes is the new BSMI (Bureau of Standard Measurement Insititute) mark for the DoC and Type Approval processes. I believe this is also known as the CNS

Re: EN 55103 declaration

2003-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that McBurney, Ian [Allen Heath UK] ian.mcbur...@allen-heath.com wrote (in BC4E3DA2E1C8164D9CBE2DF1595DCC 76011...@gandalf.allen-heath.com) about 'EN 55103 declaration' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: As a UK manufacturer and European exporter of professional electronic audio

RE: New OJEC publication of lists of harmonized standards for LVD ATEX directives

2003-01-03 Thread Peters, Michael
Glyn et al, I cannot say for the other directives, but I checked 93/42/EEC via the link below and OJ C310 has not been incorporated into the what's new standards list. Michael Peters From: ggars...@us.tuv.com [mailto:ggars...@us.tuv.com] Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 7:06 PM To:

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Wan Juang Foo f...@np.edu.sg wrote (in of39a8a68f.ebf7ed21-on48256ca3.00237...@np.edu.sg) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Fri, 3 Jan 2003: I could not by any means to stretch my limited imagination to match the C-tick to the description offered. I don't think

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Gary McInturff Gary.McInturff@worldwidepackets .com wrote (in 917063bab0ddb043af5faa73c7a835d40ac...@windlord.wwp.com ) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Thu, 2 Jan 2003: I have a small double insulated wall wart type power supply. 120 Vac in, 12 Vdc out

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute ri...@sdd.hp.com wrote (in 200301030156.raa04...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com) about 'strange symbols (to me anyway)' on Thu, 2 Jan 2003: It is not an ISO or IEC symbol. It is either in IEC60417 already or will be in the future. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own

CCC Certification

2003-01-03 Thread Christian Marti
Good morning: We are a US company manufacturer of TVSS:Transient Voltage Surge Suppressors (SPDs: Surge Protection Devices). We are selling these products in China, and if I am not wrong the deadline to get the CCC certification mark is May 2003. I wanted to know: 1) Is the CCC mark

RE: Multiple CPU Options

2003-01-03 Thread Wan Juang Foo
Dear all, This brings to mind about the rational behind the existence of product standards. Given the typical product, I am convince that it is 'theoretically' impossible to predict which 'typical' configuration can give you the worst case, say for example, radiated emission testing. IMHO, one

More efffects of paths crossing ground plane breaks

2003-01-03 Thread Doug Smith
Hi All, I have posted my new Technical Tidbit for January, 2003 on http://emcesd.com titled Crossing Ground Plane Breaks - Part 2 Tracing Current Paths. The abstract is: Abstract: EMC and signal integrity engineers know that a signal crossing over a break in a ground plane often causes

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread Leslie Bai
Gary, The symbol you described is to indicate Indoor or Outdoor use. If the arrow points outside, it means For outdoor use. If it points inside, it means For indoor use only. This house symbol is not an IEC recognized one but it IS required by some countries for certain types of products,

Re: strange symbols (to me anyway)

2003-01-03 Thread Allen Kemevor
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. The nearly closed C with a horizontal lightning bolt separating top and bottom appears to be a description of the Australian C-Tick mark. I believe it means the device complies with the Australian EMC requirements. Allen Gary McInturff wrote: