Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Douglas E Powell
The reason I asked this question is because a company I have been consulting with for the last 4 months, has this week successfully had their 80 kWh energy storage system reviewed and tested for a UL 9540 listing. This a startup company and they achieved first pass certification of their product. A

Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Douglas E Powell
Amusing indeed. I have a few private answers about companies who have succeeded, but I suspect that many new products that passed first time were mainly variants of exisiting product lines. My question was about new product introductions. I am know several design engineers who have learned by way

Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Scott Xe
Dear Doug, Very interesting question and I would like to know it as well. Suggest to go to the testing lab for the answer. They should have the statistics in their business. Would you mind sharing why you want to know it, what for? Although I do not have the figures I am aware of the answers w

Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Ron Pickard
Amusing anecdotes so far, but no answers for Doug yet. Over the years in a time long ago (retired for a few years now) I gained much success with first time submissions with experience (relationships with labs & agencies were also important for this). The big continuing annoyance was with produ

Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread John E Allen
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Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread rwellman
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Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Brian Kunde
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Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Dennis Ward
A company once made glassware. They could not figure out why it did not hold water. They hired an engineer who told them to put a bottom on the glass. It held water. The manager that hired the engineer left the company and a new manager was hired. He asked why this engineer was hired and did

Re: [PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Ken Javor
Second hand info. A colleague of mine, Mark Nave, was hired as an EMC engineer by Network Appliance in the early 2000s. He took them to regularly passing the first time through. After awhile, the VP who hired him retired or moved on, and the new VP didn¹t have the history of not passing changing

[PSES] Friday question

2021-06-25 Thread Douglas E Powell
Out of curiosity, I would like to know (especially from those who have been in the business for a while) what is your "first pass success rate" for safety certifications on new product introductions? That is, to achieve a product safety certification from an accredited laboratory with no action it