Amusing indeed.

I have a few private answers about companies who have succeeded, but I
suspect that many new products that passed first time were mainly variants
of exisiting product lines. My question was about new product introductions.

I am know several design engineers who have learned by way of the school of
hard knocks, and either they design for compliance or at the very least
submit designs to someone like myself before calling in the safety agency.

Doug

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 6:07 PM Ron Pickard <ronpick...@cox.net> wrote:

> Amusing anecdotes so far, but no answers for Doug yet.
>
> Over the years in a time long ago (retired for a few years now) I gained
> much success with first time submissions with experience (relationships
> with labs & agencies were also important for this).
>
> The big continuing annoyance was with product variations found during
> factory inspections due to part availability issues and manufacturer
> ingenuity (loved working those variation notices).
>
> Enjoying retirement & best regards,
>
> Ron Pickard
> *Sent from my smartphone*
> On Jun 25, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Douglas E Powell <doug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Out of curiosity,
>>
>> I would like to know (especially from those who have been in the business
>> for a while) what is your "first pass success rate" for safety
>> certifications on new product introductions? That is, to achieve a product
>> safety certification from an accredited laboratory with no action items
>> required coming out of the preliminary design review.  It's helpful if you
>> can indicate how complex the projects are.
>>
>> In my 26 years as a compliance engineer, I've observed possibly three in
>> total for products with a reasonably high complexity.
>>
>> Thanks! Doug
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