Gerry, that number sounds familiar.
John Shinn
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:50 AM, Ghery S. Pettit wrote:
>
>
> I know it is in VDE 0871/6.78, so it dates back to at least June of 1978. I
> don’t know about anything prior to that. VDE 0871/6.78 is also th
If my memory serves me right, as I recall, the 80/80 rule was in at least one
of the VDE standards regarding radiated emissions. I can’t recall the number or
name. This is going back to the late ‘70s or so.
John Shinn
Retired
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:55 AM, John Woodg
Gerry, I had the same impression.
John Shinn, PPASEL
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 7, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Ghery Pettit wrote:
>
> I looked at the subject line and thought about something completely unrelated
> – pilot ratings. I have a PP-ASEL IA. Private Pilot – Airplane, Sing
Michael,
You are dating yourself. How many people on this list know what a TO-220 is.
Regards
John Shinn
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 27, 2016, at 11:42 AM, Heckrotte, Michael
> wrote:
>
> During college I had a summer job as an electronic technician for a company
>
doug
Douglas Powell
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01
From: John Shinn
Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 12:07 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Reply To: John Shinn
Subject: Re: [PSES] Caution to those who live outside of California and
got there on business!!! (
.
FYI, in addition to my own Engineering & Management consulting, I am also
a Registered Tax Professional with both the IRS and CA.
I hope that sheds some light on the situation.
Regards,
John Shinn, Ph.D., P.E.
-Original Message-
From: Ken Javor
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014
1. John Woodgate makes an excellent point regarding why didn't the
manufacture
know about the Standard Changes.
2. Does the manufacturer build to the customer's prints and requirements?
If so,
why didn't the customer know about the Standard Changes?
John Shinn
-O
and the number of lawyers.
From: Derek Walton
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:32 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Standards copyright lawsuit
Doug has a point, the laws are available, and we can get access for free. The
problem is we spend our lives trying to find which
Requirements.
Hopefully I have described your product and your marketing position
sufficiently.
Regards,
John Shinn, P.E.
Retired
From: Scott Douglas
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:43 PM
To: Grace Lin
Cc: Bill Owsley ; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: EMC Required?
Grace and Bill,
Here is an
Ken:
That was an excellent job of finding all of those component and surplus stores
here in the south bay.
John Shinn
From: Ken Wyatt
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:20 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Review: Bay Area electronic surplus stores
Hi All,
Just for fun...I reviewed
For your information:
exercition - Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English
exercitacioun, from Latin exercitation-, exercitatio, from exercitare
Date: 14th century
A more modern term - Exercise
exercision appears to be an archaic version of exercising.
John Shinn
-Original Message
Junction to (heat)Sink. I don't know what a solder-point
is. Please enlighten.
I have not worked much with SMT, so I may be showing my age.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: N. Shani
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 3:22 PM
To: McInturff, Gary
Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEE
I may be dating myself, but I still have my original super pong. I just cannot
find a TV that I can use it with.
John Shinn
From: Ed Price
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:00 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] database
Jim:
And for the >90% of us who are not using th
.
However, for a type B surge, the unit must not fail and continue to meet the
requirements of the standard.
This was originally a requirement in the original FCC Part 68 and was continued
when I wrote (as editor)
the TIA/EIA 968 document.
John Shinn, Ph.D., P.E.
Retired
From: Dan Roman
The issue is that you said "most", not "all".
John Shinn
-Original Message-
From: Richard Nute
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 1:23 PM
To: 'John Woodgate' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] Is this common knowledge - Electrical Ratings
&
Actually there are FIVE:
YES
NO
MAYBE
DON'T KNOW
DON'T CARE
John Shinn, Ph.D., PE
-Original Message-
From: Sundstrom, Michael
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:55 AM
To: John Woodgate ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] Quasi-peak
Richard Schultz (of ANSI C
Peter is correct. The Lawyers will usually list everyone
remotely associated with the product, including the
retailer who sold it.
John Shinn
-Original Message-
From: Peter Tarver
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:53 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] CE marking
Hi Gherry:
Just remember that when you pull back on the yoke (stick), the houses get
smaller, but if you keep pulling back they get bigger again.
John
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Pettit,
Ghery
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:24 PM
To: Conway, Patrick R (Hous
e my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my
employer.
--- On Mon, 8/18/08, John Shinn wrote:
From: John Shinn
Subject: RE: RF What-if (was: RE: Another Cancer Scare?)
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 8:32 PM
Sorry -- Something
Sorry -- Something got lost in the translation. Try again.
It was not supposed to be a map. Apparently the "p" got lost.
http://tinyurl.com/69na9p
John
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Shinn
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 5:35 PM
To: emc-p..
Take a look at this.
http://tinyurl.com/69na9
Regards,
John Shinn, P.E.
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Instructions
. However, when we add various
notations after the dB part, it is no longer dimensionless. For example,
what is the dimensions of an antenna factor in dB?
John Shinn, P.E.
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
f...@dctolight.net
Sent: Tuesday
. 47CFR15.103 (c) specifically exempts a digital device
used exclusively as an industrial (as you stated), commercial, or
medical test equipment.
I think your industrial use is your out, but still you need to consider
good engineering practice.
Regards,
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
The charcter is the first letter of "energy". I suspect that is is
similar to the "Energy Star" marking.
John Shinn, P.E.
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of alain.samlai (岑國綸)
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003
e the standard which defines the procedure,
call the supervisor, manager, boss, owner, or whoever and get the
situation answered to your satisfaction.
If not, you may wish to considered packing up your equipment and
going home.
By the way, does this lab have accreditation to ISO 17025?
Regards,
John
.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Eric Penne
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:38 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Monitoring Random ESD events
I'm pretty new to th
If he had a LOW EMI Phone, how was he able to transmit out of the
OR? It is not the incidental radiation that is the problem, it is the
transmitter. Also, how was he able to "answer" the phone and maintain
sterilization?
John Shinn
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:o
is not continious, but on an as needed basis.
I suggest that you get a scanner or (good) spectrum analyzer and see if you
can determine
the "exact" frequency and modulation, if any.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI
john.sh...@sanmina-sci.com
From: owner-emc-p...@ma
Certification, or their
equivalent Declaration of Conformity (DoC) as applicable.
Part 18 is similar and need to be reviewed against a specific
product.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p
significant amount of investigation regarding
complaints unless there is some threshold quantity of complaints
regarding a certain subject.
In general, in working with the FCC, I have found the enforcement
activities to be complaint driven.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI
different, can lightly enjoy some of
the humor regarding some of these differences, and
learn from the exchange.
So, the real question is: When are you going to get
a baseball team together and start playing for a slot
in the World Series?
Best regards,
John Shinn
-Original Message-
Fr
You are going to have to forgive Bruce. He is originally from South Africa,
transplanted first to western Canada, and now to Eastern Canada.
John
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Jason Greenwood
Sent: Frida
David, You are right. I have a mouse that has a UL recognized mark, a GS
mark, a CE mark,
a NOM, a VCCI, a Tic mark, and more. And it still does not work well.
John
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Cleme
.
Assume that a vendor, who is not willing to have their product tested and
listed for by an appropriate testing agency, is hiding something and the
vendor
is aware that the product would not comply if tested.
OO
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From
It is not in the Part 15 rules. It is located in a public notice that is
several
years old now. Best bet is to contact the FCC OET in Columbia.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John
Are you talking electrical (EMC) noise or Acoustic?
John Shinn
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Peter Merguerian
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:09 AM
To: "EMC-PSTC (E-mail)" <
Subject: Noi
Gary
-----Original Message-
From: John Shinn [mailto:john.sh...@sanmina-sci.com]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:02 PM
To: Gary McInturff; 'Pierre SELVA'; 'Forum Safety-emc'
Subject: RE: FCC and Professional Scanner : Verification or
certification
Lets get this stra
, no time).
If he wants to OEM a main-frame, that is another story for another day.
'Nuff said, end of story.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Gary McInturff
Sent: Friday, Ju
If it attached to a PC, it is a PC Peripheral and will need to meet the
requirements of a PC. It will need to be tested as part of a system
which includes the Host. a PC, by definition, is a Class B device and
can be either Certified, or preferrably, use a DoC.
Regards,
John Shinn, P.E
spend the money to do things correctly
and then have
to compete with those that do not.
my 2-bits worth.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of George Stul
Try Rubbermaid 5M715 (beige) or 5M716 (gray). Good for 400 lbs.
30 inches(0.76 meter) high.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations,
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Gary McInturff
Sent
depending upon the lab's
accreditation
and MRA status.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI Homologation Services
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
am...@westin-emission.no
Sent: Thursday,
. However, a window would be another story, but
it would not be as dramatic as shown in most movies. The windows are
plastic so probably would not completely blow out, but it would make a
lot of noise.
John Shinn, P.E.
(also a pilot)
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Delta or WYE 3-phase circuit?
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Arno van Kesteren
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 12:31 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Phase loss
Dear All,
When a circuit
The odd numbering is not unique to Part 15. All of 47 CFR chapters
has their sub-parts originally designated with an odd number.
The even numbers, where they exist, are the result of additions
and it was necessary to put them in between the odd sub-parts.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab
lternative, make sure the products comply, generate a SDoC
(Suppliers Declaration
of Conformity) per TIA/EIA TSB-129, submit the required copy, information
and $300 to
ACTA and you can attach.
If you need more information, please send me a private e-mail.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab. Operations
S
The document, 47CFR Part 15, originally came in odd numbered sub-parts.
As the document has evolved, there will be an occasionally even numbered
sub-part.
The link is good.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab. Operations
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p
john.shinn
Actually, US "Legal" size is 8-1/2 by 14 inches. 8-1/2 by 17 inches is
B-size.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1
Actually, US "Legal" size is 8-1/2 by 14 inches. 8-1/2 by 17 inches is
B-size.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:36 AM
to the manufacturer for that information.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 11:07 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: CCFL light
up to 12 dB, or more.
There is no hard and fast rule as to what you should use for your margin.
You will have
to establish that quantity depending upon your situation.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
ar nut. :)
Rerards,
Andrew Veit
Systems Design Engineer
MTS Systems Corp
1001 Sheldon Drive
Cary, NC 27513
-Original Message-
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:35 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: radar
I read in !emc-pstc that John
Have the evaluation performed at both 3 meters and 10 meters.
Should be interesting to see the results.
John Shinn
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Rao, Praveen
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 7:14 PM
To
So where do I drill the hole in my fuel injection system?
John
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Doug McKean
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:37 PM
To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group
Subject: Re: EMC-related safet
. Secondly, by requiring the label to
say
"must accept", eliminates a lot of complaints about LEGAL incidental as well
as
intentional radiators (you might also read that as easer to dismiss
complaints).
It was a start.
John Shinn
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordom
Re: EMC-related safety issuesIn Ken's second scenario, Chrysler Corp. had to
fix the Dodge/Plymoth min-van's rear door latch. I'm
sure of the other two. However, note that it is not the US government that
would be after the knife
(actually a box cutter) manufacturer, but what we call on this side
NO NO NO. Don't think about the plane. There will be more red tape
than you want to think about, especially if it is bolted down (permanently
installed).
If not approved by the appropriate government agency (the FAA's FSDO -
Flight Safety District Office), it could cause loss of airworthyness of
John:
Perhaps you should rephrase that!
EMC IS a controversial issue.
SAFETY IS a controversial issue.
thus
EMC and SAFETY ARE a controversial issue.
Just my $0.02 worth.
John
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf
kiss it
good-by, or
expect to spend a long vacation in the burn unit of your local hospital.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
jasonxmall...@netscape.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:57
se compatibility-suite tests are performed without
any additional T-P line filters. Any altered interface is your
responsibility; results may or may not represent real world installations.
David
-Original Message-
From: John Shinn [mailto:john.sh...@sanmina-sci.com]
S
ted
to put that information out to everyone.
Regards,
John Shinn
-Original Message-
From: Bill Owsley [mailto:ows...@cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 2:32 PM
To: John Shinn; 'Reginald Henry'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: RJ45 filtered connector
I beleive his name is Dr. Ralph Showers. A very
nice fellow.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab. Operations
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Doug McKean
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:57 AM
al vendors a few years ago, but I would
suggest you look at the website or catalogs of the major
connector suppliers.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab. Operations.
Sanmina-SCI
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf O
f we refer back to the series, and refer to the n-th term, we
would all be on the same page (and harmonic).
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
lfresea...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 20
Actually, that is referred to as the "Ye Olde Balloon Theory". You
push one bulge in and another pops out somewhere else.
I am quite sure Kent used and uses this as an example when
explaining EMI.
John Shinn, P.E.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[ma
Your'e close. It is slightly larger than an violin and tuned 1/5 octave
lower.
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
don_macart...@selinc.com
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:23 AM
To: Pettit, Ghery
Cc: emc-
similar
type pre-amp for their radiated emissions set up.
Please excuse me for not providing this information in my initial question.
As always, your responses are greatly appreciated.
Joe Martin
"John Shinn"
,
Arc Welder works better.
John
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:25 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Grounding Continuity Testers for UL 6095
such as 25 dB? Does it need to be adjustable?
That information would be helpful.
Regards,
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab Operations
Sanmina
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
marti...@appliedbiosystems.com
OK - Lets settle if for all of you young folk. The 80/80 rule originated
in VDE 0871/6.78, section 4.1.4.
Regards,
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab. Operations
Sanmina
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Lou
new Grant of Equipment Authorization which authorized the new
FCC ID to be used on the model sold by Vendor B without a paper trail
back to Grantee A.
Hopefully that clears up any confusion.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Lab. Operations]
Sanmina
-Original Message-
From: o
Don't laugh!! those good ole days are still here.
John Shinn, P.E.
Manager, Laboratory Operations
Sanmina Homologation Services
-Original Message-
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Juhasz
Sent: Thursday, November 01,
Do not assume that a TCB is an extension of the FCC. Think of a
TCB as a outsourced subcontractor reviewing reports. They are not
allowed to interpret the Rules. If there is a question regarding
interpretation,
they, the TCB, will have recourse to the FCC.
End of Story.
John Shinn, P.E
eed.
John Shinn, P.E.
john.sh...@nt.com
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