David, You are right. I have a mouse that has a UL recognized mark, a GS mark, a CE mark, a NOM, a VCCI, a Tic mark, and more. And it still does not work well.
John -----Original Message----- From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Clement Dave-LDC009 Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:22 PM To: 'richwo...@tycoint.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Question regarding something slightly unusual ... Well I have a mouse with a UL listing mark & a GS mark and a keyboard with a Recognized component mark & a GS mark. So you are correct in that it does not work well. About 10 years ago the UL office we dealt with would not list and product that was rack mountable even though as an individual item it met all the requirements. We would have UL recognition, CSA certifcation as product and a GS mark. This has since changed. Dave Clement Motorola Inc. Test Lab Services Homologation Engineering 20 Cabot Blvd. Mansfield, MA 02048 P:508-851-8259 F:508-851-8512 C:508-725-9689 mailto:dave.clem...@motorola.com http://www.motorola.com/globalcompliance/ -----Original Message----- From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:56 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Question regarding something slightly unusual ... Well that process doesn't seem to work that well either. I have a mouse and keyboard that both have a UL Recognition mark. The mouse has a GS mark and the keyboard has a Bauart mark. Of course, the reason the keyboard has the Bauart mark rather than the GS mark is that it does not comply with the GS requirements for a German keyboard. But that does not explain the marks on the mouse. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International -----Original Message----- From: Clement Dave-LDC009 [mailto:dave.clem...@motorola.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 1:00 PM To: 'soundsu...@aol.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Question regarding something slightly unusual ... TUV does have a mechanism, they issues the GS mark for products and the Bauart mark for components. Dave Clement Motorola Inc. Test Lab Services Homologation Engineering 20 Cabot Blvd. Mansfield, MA 02048 P:508-851-8259 F:508-851-8512 C:508-725-9689 mailto:dave.clem...@motorola.com http://www.motorola.com/globalcompliance/ -----Original Message----- From: soundsu...@aol.com [mailto:soundsu...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:43 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Question regarding something slightly unusual ... From Doug McKean: >>>>>>>>In 20 years, I've never seen this before but that's not saying much. Why would a mfr get a UL recognition approval for a commercial ITE style single phase 155-230vac computer style product but for that same product get the TUV "GS" mark? Mfr is a stateside company. Product to be used in restricted areas with trained personnel only. But, one that essentially anyone could buy. What's the advantage of getting such a mixed set of approvals? <<<<<<<<<<<< It's not really a mixed set of approvals. UL must have considered the device to be incomplete in some way (does it have an enclosure?), therefore they Recognized it as a component as opposed to Listing it as a finished product. The GS Mark has no mechanism for delineating between components and finished products - both can receive GS approval. Hence the TUV GS mark. That's my guess, based on the limited information you gave. Greg Galluccio www.productapprovals.com
