Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-19 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv, Gert Gremmen
[mailto:andrew.p.pr...@leonardocompany.com] Sent: 19 July 2017 07:16 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] Thanks all for the replies. It seems that there is some divided opinion. Some of the test houses I have spoken to state that they definitely ground their chamber

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-19 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv, Gert Gremmen
o: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] It's not my consensus! Yes, the building ground is likely to be noisy, unless you actually connect directly back to its earth spike. Even then, the wire you use is an inductor and may have noise induced in it. I am

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-19 Thread John Woodgate
July 2017 07:16 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] Thanks all for the replies. It seems that there is some divided opinion. Some of the test houses I have spoken to state that they definitely ground their chambers via ground spikes. This is to remove

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-19 Thread Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)
Thanks all for the replies. It seems that there is some divided opinion. Some of the test houses I have spoken to state that they definitely ground their chambers via ground spikes. This is to remove low frequency noise that causes issues with the low frequency emc tests that are required in

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv, Gert Gremmen
oodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Tuesday 18 July 2017 21:09 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] I think the issue is far more about electrical safety than EMC. Of course you are quite right about a Faraday cage not requiring an earth connectio

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread John Woodgate
ttp://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Ghery S. Pettit [mailto:n6...@comcast.net] Sent: 18 July 2017 19:59 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] It's not so much that it

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread Ken Javor
org> Reply-To: <ri...@ieee.org> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 11:47:22 -0700 To: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] ³But as soon as mains filters are mounted on the wall, one has to cope with leakage currents (blind current) as large as 6 amp

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread Ghery S. Pettit
, July 18, 2017 11:47 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] "But as soon as mains filters are mounted on the wall, one has to cope with leakage currents (blind current) as large as 6 amp or more." 6 amps! At 230 volts, 50 Hz, Xc is

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread Richard Nute
"But as soon as mains filters are mounted on the wall, one has to cope with leakage currents (blind current) as large as 6 amp or more." 6 amps! At 230 volts, 50 Hz, Xc is 38.8 ohms. Total C from line to earth is 69.2 uF! (Presumably the filter has an equal capacitance from neutral to

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] Warning Will Robinson - Brian is not an EMC expert. Agree with Herr Gremmen about the referencing of equipotential points - this was critical for my employer's current chamber because it was sitting next to a machine shop and a HALT chamber

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread Ken Javor
orp.com> > Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 17:22:35 + > To: <EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> > Conversation: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] > Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] > > Warning Will Robinson - Brian is not an EMC expert. > > Agree with Her

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread Brian O'Connell
...@cetest.nl] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:49 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] As for the purpose of operation, EMC chambers need no grounding. The shielding property happens by conduction of the shield material the chamber is made from. But as soon

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread Gert Gremmen
as a grounded one. Gert Gremme -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK) [mailto:andrew.p.pr...@leonardocompany.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 18 juli 2017 16:55 Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use] Hi All Which is the best to use

Re: [PSES] Chamber grounding [General Use]

2017-07-18 Thread Price, Andrew (Leonardo, UK)
Hi All Which is the best to use? Ground each EMC chamber via an earth spike or back to the transformer of the supply to the building? Which is best practice? Regards Andy Andrew Price Land & Naval Defence Electronics Division Prinicpal Environmental