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RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
I think that introducing the third factor is good, but c
ng bv - Gert Gremmen
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> In the medical RA where I got a bit of experience a third factor is used t
14, 2016 12:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
In the medical RA where I got a bit of experience a third factor is used to
classify the avoidability of risk.
Avoidability of the risk.
So the risk number is severity times
e or by e-mail and
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From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com]
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A scale of 1
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Rich
If you have not done a risk assessment previously it can be daunting - where
do you draw the line with "what if".
easonable mitigation? No that's the best you will get move on the next risk.
Hope that helps
Andy
From: Gary Swale [mailto:gary.sw...@ditchwitch.com]
Sent: 14 April 2016 00:48
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>>I don't h
uards, and information.
From: Richard Nute [ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 6:19 PM
To: Gary Swale; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
“… Risk Assessment is a qualitative (estimate based on ex
". Risk Assessment is a qualitative (estimate
based on experience) venture."
I don't have experience in RA, so I guess I can't
do it. I guess I have to hire someone who has RA
experience.
This is very much like the certification house
manager who told me that product safety is an
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Subject: RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
Based on your question, your best bet would be to read ISO 12100
Having sat on numerous standards committees, many of the requirements come from
BOGSAT (Bunch Of Guys Sitting Around Talking), not fr
2100 as basis for presumption of conformity?
Thanks,
Brian
From: Gary Swale [mailto:gary.sw...@ditchwitch.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
Based on your question, your best bet would be to r
Based on your question, your best bet would be to
read ISO 12100
Having sat on numerous standards committees, many
of the requirements come from BOGSAT (Bunch Of
Guys Sitting Around Talking), not from science. I
am interested in the academic (or scientific)
background for RA rather
umption of conformity?
Thanks,
Brian
From: Gary Swale [mailto:gary.sw...@ditchwitch.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:04 AM
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Based on your question, your best bet would be to read ISO 12100
Gary L
16 1:13 PM
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Not much reading of machinery safety stuff. Does ISO13849-1 or IEC62061 list
ISO12100 as the normative ref for RA?
Per equipment not scoped by machinery directive, what would be rationale
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Based on your question, your best bet would be to read ISO 12100
Gary L. Swale
Charles Machine Works
Product Safety & Compliance
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
Rich
Sorry but I can't provide such a bibliography as I never had the time to look,
but there are masses of documents "out there" if you want to look yourself -
and probably many from academics at the variou
nfo around the World)
John Allen
W.London, UK
From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: 12 April 2016 18:49
To: 'John Allen'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
". hopefully involving some who have had &quo
". hopefully involving some who have had "field"
experience of similar products and the HAZARDS
that they have faced."
". become familiar/"comfortable" with what it is
trying to achieve and how it is prompting/helping
YOU to do it."
Can you provide a bibliography of articles by
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's new approach directive transitions
Good morning
Whilst I also mentioned the IEC/EN61010-1:2010 Risk Assessment provisions in an
earlier post, I think it must be borne in mind that they are there primarily
for the re
fortable" with what it is trying to achieve and how it is
prompting/helping YOU to do it.
John Allen
W. London, UK
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From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no]
Sent: 12 April 2016 06:27
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Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EU's
IEC/EN 61010-1 (2010) " Safety requirements for electrical equipment for
measurement, control and laboratory use - Part 1: General requirements" do
have a separate chapter covering risk assessment. In addition, Annex J,
describes a risk assessment process, based on ISO/IEC Guide 51 (1999).
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