Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-16 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway.” Earl Nightingale From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:21 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? The ARRL (

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-15 Thread Ken Wyatt
2-2606 > (913) 440-1540 > KB5UKT > > “Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish > it. > The time will pass anyway.” > Earl Nightingale > > From: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:21 AM > To

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-15 Thread Ted Eckert
om: Ed Price [mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:21 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? The ARRL (American Radio Relay League, the US national ha

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-15 Thread Sundstrom, Mike
[mailto:edpr...@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 10:21 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? The ARRL (American Radio Relay League, the US national ham radio club) has its own shielded enclosure and EMI

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-15 Thread Ed Price
- From: CR [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:27 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? On 10/14/2015 10:25 PM, Ted Eckert wrote: > > It is fairly common to run into issues where on

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-15 Thread CR
On 10/14/2015 10:25 PM, Ted Eckert wrote: It is fairly common to run into issues where one product causes interference where it shouldn’t. http://www.compliance-club.com/archive/old_archive/Bananaskins.htm Do note that the archive only covers up to 2004. I've had occasion to cite entry 3

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-14 Thread Scott Douglas
On 10/14/2015 4:40 PM, Dan Roman wrote: The other Brian wrote: Does anyone have first-hand experience dealing with EMC failures in the field? If you fail by 1db, are you dragged through the mud, fined, banned, prosecuted, black helicopters circle your house, masked men drag you out of bed in

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-14 Thread Ted Eckert
of my employer. -Original Message- From: Dan Roman [mailto:danp...@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 4:40 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? The other Brian wrote: > Does anyone have f

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-14 Thread Dan Roman
The other Brian wrote: > Does anyone have first-hand experience dealing with EMC failures in the > field? If you fail by 1db, are you dragged > through the mud, fined, banned, prosecuted, black helicopters circle your > house, masked men drag you out of bed in > the middle of the night? Or is

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc.,) Where?

2015-10-14 Thread Gary McInturff
use, masked men drag you out of bed in the middle of the night? Or is action taken only on severe non-compliances? What's the likely scenario? The Other Brian -Original Message- From: Pearson, John [mailto:john.pear...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 1:34 PM To: EMC-P

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-14 Thread Brian O'Connell
rano Salsa Design Moderator -Original Message- From: dward [mailto:dw...@pctestlab.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:01 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? Actually, that is not exactly correct.

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
ly on severe non-compliances? What's the likely scenario? The Other Brian -Original Message- From: Pearson, John [mailto:john.pear...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 1:34 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CI

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-14 Thread dward
and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your co-operation. -Original Message- From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Tuesday 13 October 2015 18:44 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
uter. Thank you for your co-operation. -Original Message- From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Tuesday 13 October 2015 18:44 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? All the issues being ra

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread Brian O'Connell
- From: Pearson, John [mailto:john.pear...@polycom.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:34 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? Hello If you are selling into the EU your DoC declaring to the harmonized std

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread Pearson, John
icter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? Bingo. Safety and EMC standards have 'built-in' margins per committee members that cared to converse with this plebian. A supplier's margin is in internal policy, or is per your customer's spec, or is per empirical

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread Rodney Davis
o: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? Thank you Gert! I was beginning to wonder if anyone would say it. Gary Stuyvenberg Sr. Electrical/EMC Engineer thompsonconsultingservi...@yahoo.com ___

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread Brian O'Connell
t. Indeed, per Mr. Crane, why assume anything? Brian Sr Burrito and Ale Test Engineer -Original Message- From: Crane, Lauren [mailto:lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:44 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than leg

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread Crane, Lauren
All the issues being raised regarding possible variability must be known to the members of various standards committees. Does anyone know that the issues are *not* taken into account when the committees set test levels? If standards are followed, including any instructions regarding EUT sampling

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-13 Thread gdstuyvenb...@yahoo.com
r, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your co-operation. From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Tuesday 13 October 2015 07:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter l

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-12 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
mission.no] Sent: Tuesday 13 October 2015 07:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where? 5-6dB margin. Bring two samples to the test lab, and make a quick check that sample no.2 also is within 6dB (yes, additional test

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Stricter limits than legal (CISPR11, IEC, etc,) Where?

2015-10-12 Thread Amund Westin
5-6dB margin. Bring two samples to the test lab, and make a quick check that sample no.2 also is within 6dB (yes, additional test costs may apply) Repeat testing (quick scanning) after 2 years to check compliance. More often if modified in some way. This is not a 100% good approach, but i