Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-28 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
: Nyffenegger, Dave; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries I think that VFD ensure that the magnetic forces in the motor remain the same. Magnetic forces are 1:1 related to motor current. This way a substantial amount of torque remains available at each frequency

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-27 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
ject: Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries I will raise another question to stir the pot and solicit comments from the motor experts. We use AC motors driven from VFDs which by definition vary the frequency to the motors. There are many different ways an application may run. It may use

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-27 Thread Ted Eckert
y own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer. From: Pete Perkins [mailto:0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:03 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries Pleased to see the 3 Amigo

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-27 Thread Pete Perkins
erk...@ieee.org> p.perk...@ieee.org From: Brian Gregory [mailto:brian_greg...@netzero.net] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 9:23 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries The third Brian opines: do what O'Connel says, then do

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-27 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:27 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries Thanks to all for the good advice. It was more helpful than you can imagine. The Other Brian -Original

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-27 Thread Kunde, Brian
al Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries Dear experts, Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~ 3-phase 3hp motors) that are rated "60HZ"

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-27 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries Dear experts, Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~ 3-phase 3hp motors) that are rated "60HZ" be used in products going to countries that have 50HZ power? I believe the motors will run a little slo

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Brian Gregory
of the unit's ratings. Brian -Original Message- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries Dear experts, Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Cortland Richmond
On 9/26/2016 2:26 PM, Richard Nute wrote: Ask the motor manufacturer. In addition to running slower, the motor probably does not have enough iron to produce enough power, and will likely overheat and trip the thermal protection. As far back as the 1950's, US service members in Europe and the

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Brian O'Connell
acceptability should not be considered in any customer discussions. Brian -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:14 PM To: Brian O'Connell; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz coun

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread John Woodgate
n aeternum manent. -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 6:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries How components are used cannot be controlled by manufactur

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Also the internal cooling is sometimes very specific to the expected operating speed of the internal fan. -Dave -Original Message- From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 2:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread B Rowland
nit's ratings. > > Brian > > > -Original Message- > From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:39 AM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries > > Dear experts,

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Brian O'Connell
--- From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:39 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries Dear experts, Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~ 3-phase 3hp motors) that are rated "60HZ" be

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Richard Nute
> Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~ 3-phase > 3hp motors) that are rated "60HZ" be used in products > going to countries that have 50HZ power? Ask the motor manufacturer. In addition to running slower, the motor probably does not have enough iron to produce enough power, and will lik

Re: [PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Be aware that the EU has some energy efficiency requirements for 3 phase motors. Motors designed for 60 hertz may well have more difficulty meeting these requirements. Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: Brian KundeTo: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGSent: September 26

[PSES] Using 60hz motors in 50hz countries

2016-09-26 Thread Kunde, Brian
Dear experts, Can AC brushless motors (in this case 230V~ 3-phase 3hp motors) that are rated "60HZ" be used in products going to countries that have 50HZ power? I believe the motors will run a little slower which will not affect the function of the product, but is there a safety issue with thi