Re: [PSES] [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-17 Thread Charlie Blackham
<251cd282cc37-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 9:26 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2 Hi Amund UN38.3 only addresses battery transportation, covering both expected cond

Re: [PSES] [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-17 Thread Chris Wordley
16:39 > Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Emne: Re: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN > 62133-2 > > Hi Amund, > > Annex M (batteries) is normative = shall comply. You only get to comply with > Annex M if you pass M.2.1 which requires that cel

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: James Pawson (U3C) Sendt: 16. oktober 2023 16:39 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2 Hi Amund, Annex M (batteries) is normative = shall comply. You only get to comply with

Re: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
From: Amund Westin Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 3:27 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2 An IT product must comply to EN62368-1. It contains Lithium LiPo batter. According to EN/IEC62368-1-1:2020, § M.2 Safety of b

[PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
An IT product must comply to EN62368-1. It contains Lithium LiPo batter. According to EN/IEC62368-1-1:2020, § M.2 Safety of batteries and their cells, the standard IEC 62133-2 is listed, and batteries and cells shall comply according to that standard. Could this be interpreted as an invariable r

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-28 Thread Scott Xe
self. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Matthew > > > > Matthew Larkin > TÜV SÜD Product Service > Tel: +44 (0) 1489 558212 > > > > > > > *From:* Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 27 April 2016 17:14 > *To:* Scott Al

[PSES] FW: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-27 Thread John Woodgate
With best wishes OOO – Own Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:50 PM To: 'Scott Xe' Subject: RE: [PSES] EN 6

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-27 Thread Larkin, Matthew
com] Sent: 27 April 2016 14:34 To: Leber, Jody (Suwanee); EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; Larkin, Matthew Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 Hi Matt, Where did you get dow of 10/01/2016? Thanks and regards, Scott Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Win

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-27 Thread Larkin, Matthew
IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 Scott & Matt, Thanks for your information. Should we consider in this way that for product scope in EN 60065 or 60950-1, the effective date should follow the publication in OJEU and for batteries, DOW of 10/01/2016 is applied as per standard stated.

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-27 Thread Scott Xe
Scott & Matt, Thanks for your information. Should we consider in this way that for product scope in EN 60065 or 60950-1, the effective date should follow the publication in OJEU and for batteries, DOW of 10/01/2016 is applied as per standard stated. Currently EN 62133 is not included in LV

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-27 Thread Scott Aldous
Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows 10 >> >> >> >> *From:* Larkin, Matthew [mailto:matthew.lar...@tuv-sud.co.uk] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:54 PM >> *To:* Leber, Jody (Suwanee); EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG >

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-27 Thread Scott Xe
mailto:matthew.lar...@tuv-sud.co.uk] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:54 PM > *To:* Leber, Jody (Suwanee); EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* RE: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 > > > > Hi Jody > > The dow date is 2016-01-10; so 10th January 2016 for EN62133 for > co

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-26 Thread Leber, Jody (Suwanee)
...@tuv-sud.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 1:54 PM To: Leber, Jody (Suwanee); EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 Hi Jody The dow date is 2016-01-10; so 10th January 2016 for EN62133 for conflicting National standards to be withdrawn. Best Regards Matthew Sent from

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-26 Thread Leber, Jody (Suwanee)
:13 PM To: Leber, Jody (Suwanee) Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 Hi Jody, It is stated in OJEU under EN 60950-1 A2. For radio equipment, the voltage limit of LVD is removed in both R&TTED and RED. Can you point me to where the end product standards and CB Sc

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-26 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Jody, It is stated in OJEU under EN 60950-1 A2. For radio equipment, the voltage limit of LVD is removed in both R&TTED and RED. Can you point me to where the end product standards and CB Scheme call up EN 62133 2013. Cl 8.3.9 is only applied to France in EU and definitely not a harmon

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-26 Thread Leber, Jody (Suwanee)
Performance Laboratory Manager Direct: 770.570.1838 Main: 770.570.1800 Mobile: 678.469.9835 From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:53 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 It said this standard comes in force in July 2016. Which

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-26 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Charlie, Thanks for your pointer! EN 62133 is in Annex ZA Normative reference of A2 2013. However I did not find any reference to Annex ZA in cl 4.3.8. Can you shed some light on how to link them together. Thanks and regards, Scott On 27 April 2016 at 00:07, Charlie Blackham wrote

Re: [PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-26 Thread Charlie Blackham
From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 April 2016 16:53 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EN 62133 2013 It said this standard comes in force in July 2016. Which directive does this standard fall into it? With regards to cl 8.3.9 forced internal short circuit in cells

[PSES] EN 62133 2013

2016-04-26 Thread Scott Xe
It said this standard comes in force in July 2016. Which directive does this standard fall into it? With regards to cl 8.3.9 forced internal short circuit in cells, what is rationale for this as a country specific test only? Thanks and regards, Scott - --

RE: EN 62133

2008-08-27 Thread Leber Jody-G19980
C 847.761.3145 F From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:59 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: EN 62133 Dear Memb

Re: EN 62133

2008-08-27 Thread Grace Lin
Best regards, Grace On 8/26/08, Ted Eckert wrote: Hello Grace, I can elaborate a little on Mr. Woodgate's comments. I did two quick checks. The CB Scheme web site shows no national deviations to IEC 62133. Also, the DKE web site indicates that DIN EN 62133 is just the German translat

Re: EN 62133

2008-08-27 Thread John Woodgate
In message <768ee6ab7d56d54bb5000ec2dd113e71044fc...@de01exm61.ds.mot.com>, dated Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Leber Jody-G19980 writes: >In the past, IEC 60950-1 for CB Certification has been accepted by many >test houses for batteries that claim some relation to ITE equipment. >More recently, we hav

RE: EN 62133

2008-08-26 Thread Leber Jody-G19980
>>>-Original Message- >>>From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf >>>Of John Woodgate >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:08 PM >>>To: Nick Williams; EMC-PSTC >>>Subject: Re: EN 62133 >>> >>>In message , dat

Re: EN 62133

2008-08-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Nick Williams writes: >At 20:41 +0100 26/8/08, John Woodgate wrote: > > > >> >>>If yes, which directive is this standard being categorized to? >> >>I don't think any Directive other than the General Product Safety >>Directive is involved, and that Directiv

Re: EN 62133

2008-08-26 Thread Nick Williams
7;harmonisation' (in the meaning used by the Commission) and compliance with essential requirements. In other words, just because a standard is not on the list doesn't mean you can't use it as a justification for a claim of compliance with the GPSD. Back fully on topic, EN

Re: EN 62133

2008-08-26 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Grace, I can elaborate a little on Mr. Woodgate's comments. I did two quick checks. The CB Scheme web site shows no national deviations to IEC 62133. Also, the DKE web site indicates that DIN EN 62133 is just the German translation of IEC 62133 and indicates no national deviations

Re: EN 62133

2008-08-26 Thread John Woodgate
In message <2a93eb060808261215y52bc606s5bda0b3ac051d...@mail.gmail.com>, dated Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Grace Lin writes: >Is EN 62133: 2003 identical to IEC 62133: 2002?  No EN is absolutely identical to the IEC standard with the same reference. For example, where possible the EN no

EN 62133

2008-08-26 Thread Grace Lin
Dear Members, Is EN 62133: 2003 identical to IEC 62133: 2002? Is it an EU harmonized standard? If yes, which directive is this standard being categorized to? Thank you and look forward to your help. Best regards, Grace Lin