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From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 2:09 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [***] Re: [PSES] Lead-free article
In message 1330140074.60947.yahoomail
In message 1330140074.60947.yahoomail...@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com,
dated Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Bill Owsley wdows...@yahoo.com writes:
In all, we are moving in the right direction, and can move further,
with careful consideration.
The fear mongers among us can tip the balance back to the dark
25, 2012 1:09 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [***] Re: [PSES] Lead-free article
In message 1330140074.60947.yahoomail...@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com,
dated Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Bill Owsley wdows...@yahoo.com writes:
In all, we are moving in the right direction, and can move further
: Re: [PSES] Lead-free article
Nothing I say represents the opinions or policies of my employer.
I am not a scientist, so tend to be rather practical and use models that are
known to work. I am not a writer of the likes of Clarke, DeCamp, Asimov,
Bruner, et al; so I am not an adroit thinker
).
From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:08 AM
Subject: Re: [***] Re: [PSES] Lead-free article
In message 1330140074.60947.yahoomail...@web39606.mail.mud.yahoo.com, dated
Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Bill Owsley wdows...@yahoo.com writes
In message 1330224769.18851.yahoomail...@web39608.mail.mud.yahoo.com,
dated Sat, 25 Feb 2012, Bill Owsley wdows...@yahoo.com writes:
What is it the Brits say when they agree?
here, here!
Regrettably often rendered that way.
or is it hear, hear!
That is correct.
or something else...
: Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: [PSES] Lead-free article
We’ve only really been making electronic goods for around 100 years, just a
little over one single lifetime. I guess that production has grown roughly
of thankful
for their moderating effect on society.
Tony
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From: John Woodgate
Sent: 02/17/12 09:50 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Lead-free article
In message ca2031b25ecf4165abe4a98bb2bdc...@tamuracorp.com, dated Fri, 17
Feb 2012, Brian Oconnell
Too much time to think while I pound out these mindless compliance reports
that no (sane) person will read. A colleague gave me the latest issue of an
ECN magazine article by John Titus.
www.ecnmag.com/articles/2011/12/titus-on-Design-Was-Lead-Free-Solder-Worth-
the-Effort/
And we cannot say
Newark Electronics has an RoHS page, and they have a spreadsheet file posted
there that tracks RoHS/WEEE legislation in the U.S. Canada. It has links to
different legislative bills and some simple information whether the proposed
bills focus on specific types of materials (I notice there are a
for determining what is, or is not, a covered
electronic device.
I have summaries of these bills and the actual laws/regulations
implementing them, as references [12] through [18] in my now-350-page
Bibliography for Designing Lead-Free, RoHS-Compliant, and WEEE-Compliant
Electronics at
http
Gary et al
You referred to US state laws - do you know of any US equivalents to
RoHS/WEEE other than the requirement in California that mobile phones
should be recycled?
Ian Gordon
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The information contained in this email
, 2006 7:54 AM
To: jrbar...@iglou.com; leadf...@ipc.org; emc-p...@ieee.org;
guenter.grossm...@empa.ch
Subject: RE: Presentations on Lead-Free Electronics and the RoHS
Directive
Thanks John,
I have been thrown into this mess and this gives insights that I have
not found elsewhere with the references
Regulatory Engineer
Sonicwall, Inc.
rlinf...@sonicwall.com
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John
Barnes
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:50 AM
To: leadf...@ipc.org; emc-p...@ieee.org; guenter.grossm...@empa.ch
Subject: Presentations on Lead-Free Electronics and the RoHS
Leadfree'ers,
I've given two presentations on lead-free electronics and the RoHS
Directive to groups in the Lexington, Kentucky area. I just posted .pdf
files with the foils for these presentations on our company web site:
* RoHS Compliance: THE END of Reliable Electronics?
(Lexmark
All:
Would any one on the forum have and practical experience, or be able to point
us to useful sources of information regarding lead free compatible PCB
finishes and their use with EMC fabric over foam gasket materials.
We are in the process of reviewing possible RoHS compliant finishing
Bev,
Can I get a copy of your paper,
B. Christian and A. Culver, Tin Pest Disease, International Lead
Free Conference, Toronto, May 2005 ?
I have Backer's paper,
Becker, J. H., On the Quality of Gray Tin Crystals and Their Rate
of Growth, Journal of Applied Physics, vol. 29
Piotr,
The information on tin pest (tin plague, tin leprosy, tin disease) is
still rather sketchy, although it has been known since the late 1800's.
In my now-347-page Bibliography for Designing Lead-Free, RoHS-
Compliant, and WEEE-Compliant Electronics (I had to add a 10th
file-cabinet drawer
types.
Lead-free, of course. (;-)
--
OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk
2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immoderately.
John Woodgate
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don’t say it’s easy and we
are passionate about it - the world won’t end.
Regards,
Chris
From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: 16 January 2006 11:36
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Off-topic: lead free solder and reliability
...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of
Chileshe, Chris
Sent: 13 January 2006 15:12
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Off-topic: lead free solder and reliability
Jim,
This is a very interesting topic. I am in the process of migrating the
first of our products to lead-free and your e
As far as I know, there are lead free products on the market since some
years (far east); they do not seem to have problems with the tin pest. Why?
Warm climate? Using Sb in the tin? Or is the tin pest just a theoretical
problem? (Do you wonder why they bundled electronic recycling and lead free
In message 20060116092257.a6...@pentax.boerde.de, dated Mon, 16 Jan
2006, Matthias Weingart i...@pentax.boerde.de writes
As far as I know, there are lead free products on the market since some
years (far east); they do not seem to have problems with the tin pest.
Why? Warm climate?
Very
Jim,
This is a very interesting topic. I am in the process of migrating the
first of our products to lead-free and your e-mail and John's reply
made me pause (complete with alarmed look!) for thought.
Reliability of Pb-free solder was brought into question here on the list
about a year ago
In message 011301c61845$4dd6ca50$154d4d0a@MmPc21, dated Fri, 13 Jan
2006, Piotr Galka piotr.ga...@micromade.pl writes
With this 13 degrees C is it true?
What if my products are specified for -30 degrees (and often mounted
outdoors).
Form the Wikipedia entry for 'tin':
Solid tin has two
be interested in this legislation.
Best Regards
Piotr Galka
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From: John Barnes jrbar...@iglou.com
To: Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com; emc-p...@ieee.org
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: Off-topic: lead free solder and reliability
Jim
Jim,
Since late December 2004 I've been doing an extensive study on designing
lead-free, RoHS-compliant, and WEEE-compliant electronics. To date I
have collected over 125 books and well over 5,400 papers/reports/
magazine articles/web pages on these subjects. I have links to over
2,350
Can anyone can point me to any reliability studies done on lead-free
soldering? I'm not looking for how to information but for studies
that assume it's done right and then evaluate the reliability impact (if
any)? For example, lead-free solders are harder and more brittle, so
reliability
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Subject: PVC Wire and Lead-free
Group,
I just learned and confirmed that certified PVC wire has lead as a constituent
part (e.g. UL 1430 and UL 1015). I do not know what percentage.
Now I learn from my supplier engineers that because of the lead-free
initiative and ROHS/WEEE, these PVC
: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of POWELL, DOUG
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:59 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: PVC Wire and Lead-free
Group,
I just learned and confirmed that certified PVC wire has lead as a
constituent part (e.g. UL 1430
of the original message.
From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 12:33 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: PVC Wire and Lead-free
Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote
Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com wrote (in
2147f6d97127f6428e40ff35ea522b9701e75...@xbc-mail1.xantrex.com) about
'PVC Wire and Lead-free', on Mon, 25 Apr 2005:
Don't forget that many types of wire contain individually tinned
strands and therefore contain lead regardless of the jacket
...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: PVC Wire and Lead-free
Alpha Wire have hook-up wire in PVC which is
compliant - no irradiated
PVC available yet that I have found. Raychem (Tyco)
also have compliant
wire.
Regards,
Chris
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From: owner-emc-p
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copies of the original message.
From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of James, Chris
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:49 AM
To: John Woodgate; wisemanps...@mchsi.com
Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: PVC Wire and Lead-free
April 2005 17:12
To: wisemanps...@mchsi.com
Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Re: PVC Wire and Lead-free
Josh Wiseman wisemanps...@mchsi.com wrote (in
426d11b5.1070...@mchsi.com) about 'PVC Wire and Lead-free', on Mon, 25
Apr 2005:
As I understand it the lead is used to reduce deterioration
Josh Wiseman wisemanps...@mchsi.com wrote (in
426d11b5.1070...@mchsi.com) about 'PVC Wire and Lead-free', on Mon, 25
Apr 2005:
As I understand it the lead is used to reduce deterioration of the PVC
in a heated environment.
No easy way out, then.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions
Josh,
with that said, are their flavors of PVC that are lead free now,and based
on ambients. In a controlled indoor enviroment this may not be an issue,
meaning the PVC with lead for heat minimization would not be needed, but only
PVC thats lead free.
Richard,
From: owner-emc-p
As I understand it the lead is used to reduce deterioration of the PVC
in a heated environment.
Josh
John Woodgate wrote:
POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com wrote (in
970a8fe5db2be64eb6eab84087dcc1c88ad...@bssexc01.aei.com) about 'PVC
Wire and Lead-free', on Mon, 25 Apr 2005:
I just
POWELL, DOUG doug.pow...@aei.com wrote (in
970a8fe5db2be64eb6eab84087dcc1c88ad...@bssexc01.aei.com) about 'PVC
Wire and Lead-free', on Mon, 25 Apr 2005:
I just learned and confirmed that certified PVC wire has lead as a
constituent part (e.g. UL 1430 and UL 1015). I do not know what
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
Group,
I just learned and confirmed that certified PVC wire has lead as a constituent
part (e.g. UL 1430 and UL 1015). I do not know what percentage.
Now I learn from my supplier engineers that because of the lead-free
initiative and ROHS/WEEE
hello,
Does anyone in the group have any expertise or knowledge on what tests would
be required of
a telecommunications switch that has GR 63 and GR 1089 approvals, and has now
gone
thru the full WEEE ( Lead Free ) transformation.
thnak you,
Richard,
From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org
...@printronix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:59 PM
To: djumbdenst...@tycoint.com; marko.radoji...@nokia.com;
bur...@andovercontrols.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: European Lead Free Legislation - 2006 Implementation?
Don,
My company tried to pin it on me before they realized
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of
djumbdenst...@tycoint.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:36 AM
To: marko.radoji...@nokia.com; bur...@andovercontrols.com;
emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: European Lead Free Legislation - 2006 Implementation?
Hello Marko,
How is your
Hello Marko,
How is your company driving the compliance? Did someone receive added
responsibility, or was a champion identified to coordinate the
transitioning from leaded to lead-free products? When one considers the
impact to component specifications, processes, supply chain, distribution
in
your company.
Cheers,
Marko
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of ext Burch,Joe
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:11 AM
To: PSTC
Subject: European Lead Free Legislation - 2006 Implementation?
Hi Group,
Has anyone heard of the European Lead
USA
616 257 2469
mschm...@xrite.com
www.xrite.com
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Burch,Joe
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:11 PM
To: PSTC
Subject: European Lead Free Legislation - 2006 Implementation?
Hi Group,
Has anyone heard
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of ext Burch,Joe
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 10:11 AM
To: PSTC
Subject: European Lead Free Legislation - 2006 Implementation?
Hi Group,
Has anyone heard of the European Lead Free Legislation - 2006
Implementation?
Does anyone have any details
Hi Group,
Has anyone heard of the European Lead Free Legislation - 2006
Implementation?
Does anyone have any details on this?
Your help is always appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
Josiah P. Burch
Regulatory Compliance Engineer II
AndoverControls
300 Brickstone Square
Andover, MA 01810 USA
Can anyone out there help me with info on European lead free solder
requirements? Thanks in advance.
Bill Wilson
Subject: RE: Lead free, WEEE, RoHS
that would be very good,
anyone have any updates to the W!
for processes set-up being setup for USA and all NON EU manufacturers,
having a prescence in EU for retrieving the goods
and having them disposed of correctly..
any ideas on Cost
...
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Moshe Valdman
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:03 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Cc: Moshe Valdman
Subject: Lead free, WEEE, RoHS
Hi all,
Is there a mailing list dedicated to Lead free, WEEE
Hi all,
Is there a mailing list dedicated to Lead free, WEEE, RoHS issues?
thanks,
Moshe Valdman
Reliability Manager
Orbotech
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Has anyone actually tried it? What are your experiences?
What do non-EU countries think about it?
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For those interested there is an article (page 26) in the January 2000 issue
of Electronic Packaging and Production (EPP) that discusses the new lead
free requirements and alternatives for lead free solder.
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