RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-05 Thread Cortland Richmond
Ravinder, Indeed, the IBM ESD furniture-type ESD simulator should be long remembered! The purpose of this kind of test is equipment a customer will WANT to buy. If we are wise, we go _beyond_ what the law requires, so we will gain the trust of our customers. Often, management views tests such as

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-04 Thread ajmani
05:44:33 AM Please respond to "Lacey,Scott" To: Chris Dupres cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org (bcc: Ravinder Ajmani/San Jose/IBM) Subject: RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335 Chris Not to beat a dead horse, but: While your observations on the political side are very i

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-04 Thread Lacey,Scott
Message- > From: Chris Dupres [SMTP:chris_dup...@compuserve.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 6:29 PM > To: Lacey,Scott > Cc: emc-pstc > Subject: RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335 > > Hi Scott. > > You wrote: > < It's sometimes a

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-04 Thread Chris Dupres
Hi Scott. You wrote: < It's sometimes all too easy to forget WHY we perform these tests. While we are trying to comply with written requirements in order to "pass", we are also trying to ensure product performance in the real world,> Time for my favourite hobby horse again... Going back even furt

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-03 Thread Lacey,Scott
<$0.02> I just thought I'd add my two cents worth. It's sometimes all too easy to forget WHY we perform these tests. While we are trying to comply with written requirements in order to "pass", we are also trying to ensure product performance in the real world, which can be a very hostile place fro

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-02 Thread George, David L
. Dave George Unisys -Original Message- From: lfresea...@aol.com [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 1:12 PM To: rehel...@mmm.com; n...@conformance.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335 Folks, I posed the question

Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-02 Thread Lfresearch
Dave, I see here that we hold a different opinion... My opinion is that when I buy something I expect it to work. Perhaps with us all using windows this expectation has slipped a little ( come on LINUX! ). As a consumer, immunity testing is not a quality issue, it is a must. I don't hold true to

Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-01 Thread ed . price
From: lfresea...@aol.com Subject: Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:11:30 EST To: rehel...@mmm.com, n...@conformance.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Folks, > > I posed the question of Immunity standa

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-01 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
that type of equipment. -- From: lfresea...@aol.com [SMTP:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 1:12 PM To: rehel...@mmm.com; n...@conformance.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC requirements propose

RE: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-01 Thread Matejic, Mirko
rehel...@mmm.com; n...@conformance.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335 Folks, I posed the question of Immunity standards being enforced in the USA to Art Whal(?) of the FCC. He did not see the

Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-01 Thread Lfresearch
Folks, I posed the question of Immunity standards being enforced in the USA to Art Whal(?) of the FCC. He did not see the need for immunity enforcement. After a lengthy discussion I formed the opinion that it is most likely the FCC will never press this issue, it will have to come from another STD

Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-01 Thread reheller
To: Robert E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335 I am working from the EN implementation of the published standard (BSEN60335-1:1995, including amendments 8913 (oct 95) 9475 (may 97) and 10168 (jan 99

Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-01 Thread Nick Williams
I am working from the EN implementation of the published standard (BSEN60335-1:1995, including amendments 8913 (oct 95) 9475 (may 97) and 10168 (jan 99). According to anex NA, which lists the differences between the BS document and the IEC original, CISPR 11 and CISPR 14 were mentioned in the int

Re: New EMC requirements proposed for IEC60335

1999-03-01 Thread reheller
Nick, the IEC has immunity provisions for household equipmentit is CISPR 14-2. Does IEC 60335-1 reference this standard at all? Bob Heller === === Nick Williams on 02/28/99 06:36:10 AM Pleas