Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-26 Thread Richard Nute
From: Payne, Glyn Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 4:48 AM To: ri...@ieee.org; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure Hi Richard, Thanks for this. The reason we tend to use a metal enclosure where possible is for ruggedisation and to

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-23 Thread Payne, Glyn
of 62368-1. Best regards, Glyn From: Richard Nute Reply-To: Date: Wednesday, 22 May 2019 at 19:25 To: "'Payne, Glyn'" , Subject: RE: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure Hi Glyn: You have the option of testing the bulkhead connectors in place

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-22 Thread Richard Nute
certification report says “minimum.” Good luck, and best regards, Rich From: Payne, Glyn <0d283c0acebb-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 5:48 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure HI Lori, Your interpre

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-20 Thread Payne, Glyn
HI Lori, Your interpretation is the same as mine, though I haven’t found an IEC component standard that specifies the flammability rating of optical bulkhead connectors. There may not actually be one given that they carry no electrical power. The one I currently use is HB rated but I do

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-20 Thread Payne, Glyn
<0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Reply-To: Pete Perkins Date: Saturday, 18 May 2019 at 05:27 To: Subject: Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure And if these connectors, such as a power socket, meet the component requirements they are acceptable – whether or n

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-17 Thread Pete Perkins
k...@ieee.org Entropy ain’t what it used to be From: Nyffenegger, Dave Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 11:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure Bulkhead connectors protrude through fire enclosure openings both sides all the time.

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-17 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Bulkhead connectors protrude through fire enclosure openings both sides all the time. From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 2:24 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure I would agree with you if it said

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-17 Thread John Woodgate
khead connectors protrude through fire enclosure openings both sides all the time. *From:*John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] *Sent:* Friday, May 17, 2019 2:24 PM *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure I would agree with you if it said 'Mat

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-17 Thread John Woodgate
I would agree with you if it said 'Material that fills an opening...', but it says 'Material for components that fill an opening...', which is just differently bad. It appears to apply only if there are more than one component in the opening, but all consist of only one material.  In that case,

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-17 Thread Richard Nute
Hmm. Interesting English usage statement. If something fills an opening, the opening no longer exists. So, how do you know how to apply the requirement? Rich From: Payne, Glyn <0d283c0acebb-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 6:40 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSE

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-17 Thread Lori Young
Hi Glyn, If I am understanding the sited clause correctly, the V-1 class material is needed for any material/component that fills an opening in the enclosure. Which means it is acting as part of the enclosure and therefor is required to meet the V-1 material OR the other requirements listed. 6.4

Re: [PSES] 62368-1 Openings in a fire enclosure

2019-05-17 Thread John Woodgate
I would not agree with the test house. If their interpretation was mean, the wording would be different. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK The UK is a sovereign state, not a Zollverein state On 2019-05-17 14:40, Payne,