[Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
I have a new toy. It's a Shizuoka ST-N mill with a Bandit controller. Unfortunately, the Bandit (with steppers) seems to be working fine, so I won't be swapping it for EMC2 right away. It has a tool changer that seems to lend itself to mills in general. The arm motion is controlled mechanically wit

[Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Fixler
I've been curious these past few days - while working on my most complex, yet still relatively simple project on the mini mill - as to what other online forums the folks in here frequent. I'd love to ask questions like "What would you guys recommend for this particular task: HSS, or carbide?" but r

Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread John Thornton
Watching the video the tool chain moved while the gripper was over it. Is that normal? I'm guessing that the grippers are open enough to allow this without crashing into the tools... John On 15 Apr 2008 at 0:08, Kirk Wallace wrote: > I have a new toy. It's a Shizuoka ST-N mill with a Bandit co

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-15 Thread John Thornton
I get real good info from practical machinest http://www.practicalmachinist.com Not only is the material the cutter is made of but the type of cutter and the speeds and feeds are most important. If you go a little too fast you can shorten the life of the tool a lot. Also important is if you are

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-15 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 02:50:32AM -0700, Gary Fixler wrote: > > I've found cnczone, which looked pretty good at first glance. Any others, or > anything better? Is there an EMC "general discussion" list somewhere? For general machining talk there are a lot of folks of all experience levels on the

Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 15 April 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: >I have a new toy. It's a Shizuoka ST-N mill with a Bandit controller. >Unfortunately, the Bandit (with steppers) seems to be working fine, so I >won't be swapping it for EMC2 right away. It has a tool changer that >seems to lend itself to mills in gene

Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 05:46 -0600, John Thornton wrote: > Watching the video the tool chain moved while the gripper was over it. Is > that > normal? I'm guessing that the grippers are open enough to allow this without > crashing into the tools... > > John The gripper should clear, but I don't

Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 09:58 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 April 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >I have a new toy. It's a Shizuoka ST-N mill with a Bandit controller. ...snip > >have a simple pivot. I have pictures and a video here: > > > >http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Shizuok

Re: [Emc-users] spindle

2008-04-15 Thread Stuart Stevenson
> > Hi Stuart, > Take a look at the spindle speed, gear change for the Mazak > conversion done at fest. > > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?MazakRetro > > should get you close. > the classicladder code is in /emc2/configs/mazak_demo/ > mazak_demo.clp > > HTH > > Dave > th

Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 15 April 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: >On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 09:58 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 15 April 2008, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> >I have a new toy. It's a Shizuoka ST-N mill with a Bandit controller. > >...snip > >> >have a simple pivot. I have pictures and a video here: >>

Re: [Emc-users] spindle

2008-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote: > > S (new spindle speed) M5 (or the M5 can be implied) Mxx (where xx > specifies gear change), xx (gear) or autoselect (M3 should be > implied after the gear change). You wouldn't want an M5 implied on every S word, as a small change in speed between lathe turning p

Re: [Emc-users] CD encoder

2008-04-15 Thread rtwas
That's an interesting idea. I wonder if you could modify a cd player to read near dc rate data. I had thought about using a hard drive platter, a similar idea. Robert W. Stuart Stevenson wrote: >Gentlemen, >Has anyone developed an encoder using parts from a CD reader and a >CD disk? This w

[Emc-users] best cnc tool-holder system

2008-04-15 Thread rtwas
Hello, I'm intersting in moving to some kind of cnc tool holder system (ie., cat40, bt30 etc) for small cnc mills. Any idea on which might be the best system? BT30. tool holder seem far easier to come by than say iso30 tool holders. CAT40 seems pretty easy to get but it's a little on the big si

[Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
Hello, gang, I got a Giddings and Lewis brushless motor off eBay a while ago, and finally got around to trying it with my brushless drive. It is a SSM430 size 42 motor, rated at 30 Lb-In continuous stall. I had to fool around with the commutation encoder phasing to get it to work right, and th

Re: [Emc-users] spindle

2008-04-15 Thread Dave Engvall
Hi Jon, Sorry if I mislead anyone. Build the M5 into the gear change unless you want to change gears on the fly. OUCH! Syntax for a gear change should be able to accommodate either an explicit gear or a gear table. My thinking leans toward a gear table that takes into account the torque curve o

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
Gary Fixler wrote: > > All forums usually take some lurking, and FAQ reading to properly feel > out the group mood, and kinds of things discussed, Ther is the Usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.metalworking, which has been VERY good. Recently some idiot selling shoes from china has been blasting the

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-15 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:40:59AM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > Another topic... I want to try some rigid tapping a la the > Mazak on my portable mill and bring that to the Workshop. > Is there a sample G-code program or a program that creates the > G-code for that cycle? I'm thinking of hooking m

Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: > I was surprised that there were no good points on the machine to > lash it down. I ended up putting chains and binders across the knee > ways. I put wood on the ways to keep them from getting scratched , but I > noticed all the load of the binders was pushing on the knee lead

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, Jon Elson wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 11:40:59 -0500 > From: Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] brushless motors > > Hello, gang, > > I got a Giddings and L

Re: [Emc-users] best cnc tool-holder system

2008-04-15 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Why are you considering moving to such a system? Would the Tormach tool holders meet those requirements? Ken - Original Message - From: "rtwas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: [Emc-users] best cnc tool-holder s

Re: [Emc-users] best cnc tool-holder system

2008-04-15 Thread John Kasunich
rtwas wrote: > Hello, > > I'm intersting in moving to some kind of cnc tool holder system (ie., > cat40, bt30 etc) for > small cnc mills. Any idea on which might be the best system? > > BT30. tool holder seem far easier to come by than say iso30 tool > holders. CAT40 seems > pretty easy to get

Re: [Emc-users] best cnc tool-holder system

2008-04-15 Thread Kenneth Lerman
I have a flock of Tormach holders in a variety of sizes. Not only do I use them in my Bridgeport, but they also happen to fit the turret of my little Rivett lathe. Ken - Original Message - From: "John Kasunich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday

Re: [Emc-users] Shizuoka / Bandit

2008-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 13:27 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: > Kirk Wallace wrote: > > > I was surprised that there were no good points on the machine to ... snip > > didn't like this much, but I had to have the machine off-site that day. > > > > Just a thought for the future - when moving machinery,

[Emc-users] new to CNC

2008-04-15 Thread Marc Koch
Hi, I'm following this very interesting group for a while now. In the meantime I build a plywood router and I played around with the hobbyCNC board connected to an old laptop running EMC2. I've two questions so far: - What do you use in the Linux world to convert from DXF to G-Code? I found Ca

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:40:59AM -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > > >>Another topic... I want to try some rigid tapping a la the >>Mazak on my portable mill and bring that to the Workshop. >>Is there a sample G-code program or a program that creates the >>G-code for that cycle?

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > If you are just driving a bare motor, try raising your sampling rate... Geez, the resonance seems to be about 40 Hz, my sampling rate is already 1 KHz, 25 X higher. But, yes, I can go to at least 5 KHz and see what happens. Jon -

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-15 Thread John Kasunich
Jon Elson wrote: > Peter C. Wallace wrote: >> If you are just driving a bare motor, try raising your sampling rate... > Geez, the resonance seems to be about 40 Hz, my sampling rate is > already 1 KHz, 25 X higher. But, yes, I can go to at least 5 > KHz and see what happens. > > Jon > Do you h

Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors

2008-04-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, John Kasunich wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:58:45 -0400 > From: John Kasunich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] brushless motors > > Jon Elson wrote: >> Peter C

[Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
I am losing patience with the Bandit on my Shizuoka mill, so I am thinking of converting to EMC2 sooner than later. I would like to save the stepper drivers but they look like they might have a proprietary integration with the controller. The drives have four inputs that appear to take in steps as

Re: [Emc-users] Bandit Steppers

2008-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 20:42 -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip > I seem to recall the Geckos had a non-adjustable I in its PID tuning? ... snip Oops. Thats for their DC drives. (Dooh) -- Kirk Wallace (California, USA http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ Hardinge HNC lathe, Bridgeport m

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Fixler
That looks like a good one, and well trafficked. I'll add it to my to-lurk list for now, and join in when I have some questions. Thanks! -g On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 4:46 AM, John Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get real good info from practical machinest > > http://www.practicalmachinist.

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Fixler
I've tried to get into IRC a few times with poor results. I think I just haven't figured out exactly how it works, but it seems to be a last, great stronghold of the knowledgeable populace. I should give it another go. See you on the other side, and thanks! -g On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Chr

Re: [Emc-users] EMC list meta info

2008-04-15 Thread Gary Fixler
Funny, I use Pan 2 to surf newsgroups often, and never considered there might be a good machining group. I'll add it to my subscriptions, and lurk. Back when I was getting into Flash Actionscript coding, I joined alt.macromedia.flash, and quickly learned most of everything ever talked about in ther