Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-05 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > > What are the issues with choosing a PWM frequency? I would think that > efficiency would be one, where you would balance switching losses and > iron or copper losses? Evidence of this might be seen as higher motor or > amp temperatures? Lower frequencies might produce noise

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-05 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 21:19 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: ...snip > If you have a spindle encoder, you could make HAL read the encoder > velocity and add a correction to the PWM output. > > Jon It was talked about before, but I don't remember the outcome. The software encoder has a velocity output pin

Re: [Emc-users] Encoder with 5 000 000 pulses/rev

2008-06-05 Thread Rob Jansen
Aram, i talk to company that manufacture encoder with 5 000 000 pulses per rev. > the problem is that that encoder has MAXIMUM rpm less than 200 rpm!!! > so that encoder can be speen faster than 200 rpm because frequences not > enogh to keep so much pulses. > if you want speen faster get lower re

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-05 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 21:19 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > Kirk Wallace wrote: > > A while back I played with a KBIC speed controller which demonstrated > > fairly good torque at high and low speeds. I was curious about how a PWM > > amp would do, so I set up a Pico amp to a parport PWM signal at about

Re: [Emc-users] Putting Encoder on AC servomotor???

2008-06-05 Thread John Kasunich
Jon Elson wrote: > Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: >> Jon Elson wrote: >> >>> A very good point! It seems there would be a 25.4 X benefit >>> then by using mm as the user unit instead of inches, in the case >>> of these very high resolution encoders. (I think you mean + 0.5 >>> * 10 ^ -23 in the a

Re: [Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-05 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > A while back I played with a KBIC speed controller which demonstrated > fairly good torque at high and low speeds. I was curious about how a PWM > amp would do, so I set up a Pico amp to a parport PWM signal at about > 25kHz and was surprised to find that low end torque was mu

Re: [Emc-users] Request for information at the CNC Workshop

2008-06-05 Thread Jon Elson
Matt Shaver wrote: > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 00:18 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > >>I don't think there is truly ONE way to do things. You pretty >>much have to use safety-rated controls from Pilz, Crouzet, >>Schaffner, Faulhaber, etc., and then set them up so they can >>function correctly to stop mot

Re: [Emc-users] Putting Encoder on AC servomotor???

2008-06-05 Thread Jon Elson
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: > Jon Elson wrote: > > >>Jeff Epler wrote: >> >> >> >>>In emc2 there are practical limits on the precision of position values due to >>>the use of "float" as the fundamental type for "analog" values such as >>>encoder positions. For instance, the values 1.0 and 1.0 +

[Emc-users] PWM Amp Basics

2008-06-05 Thread Kirk Wallace
A while back I played with a KBIC speed controller which demonstrated fairly good torque at high and low speeds. I was curious about how a PWM amp would do, so I set up a Pico amp to a parport PWM signal at about 25kHz and was surprised to find that low end torque was much less. I thought the PWM f

Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG for Linux released

2008-06-05 Thread Moses O McKnight
I would second Ray on .deb files. Another thing to consider is that since EMC2 is primarily supported on Ubuntu, and I would guess EMC2 users would be your main linux customers, it might may the most sense to primarily target the same platform. A plus is that the ubuntu .deb should install fine o

Re: [Emc-users] Request for information at the CNC Workshop

2008-06-05 Thread Steve Stallings
Never actually seen one, but this gadget looks sort of like the middle ground between a full up spectrum analyzer and just waving around an AM radio. http://www.saelig.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=EMC006 Cheers, Steve Stallings > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Emc-users] Request for information at the CNC Workshop

2008-06-05 Thread John Kasunich
Matt Shaver wrote: > The most basic test for RFI is to tune around the AM radio band on a > receiver with the antenna close to the equipment under consideration, > listening for changes in the level of "static". I'm just hoping to > improve on this; to take it to the next step. Maybe build some so

Re: [Emc-users] Request for information at the CNC Workshop

2008-06-05 Thread Matt Shaver
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 00:18 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > I don't think there is truly ONE way to do things. You pretty > much have to use safety-rated controls from Pilz, Crouzet, > Schaffner, Faulhaber, etc., and then set them up so they can > function correctly to stop motion, even after a compon

Re: [Emc-users] Putting Encoder on AC servomotor???

2008-06-05 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Jon Elson wrote: >Jeff Epler wrote: > > >>In emc2 there are practical limits on the precision of position values due to >>the use of "float" as the fundamental type for "analog" values such as >>encoder positions. For instance, the values 1.0 and 1.0 + 0.5**23 >>(approximately 1.001) are bo

Re: [Emc-users] Putting Encoder on AC servomotor???

2008-06-05 Thread Jon Elson
Jeff Epler wrote: > In emc2 there are practical limits on the precision of position values due to > the use of "float" as the fundamental type for "analog" values such as > encoder positions. For instance, the values 1.0 and 1.0 + 0.5**23 > (approximately 1.001) are both exactly representable,

Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Howard Chan wrote: > Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:22:39 +0800 > From: Howard Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20? > > I should

Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Howard Chan
I should set the jumpers in the "UP" position in my case. It is because the encoder is RS-422 type, is it correct?? Howard > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Howard Chan wrote: > > No, you connect the A,/A B,/B and Z,/Z wires from the encoder to the 7I33T. > The 7I33T has the 3486 line reciever for the diff

Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG for Linux released

2008-06-05 Thread Ray Henry
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 14:43 +0100, Leslie Newell wrote: > Thanks. It is a real pity that installation is so hard. IMHO this needs > to be solved before Linux can take over the world ;-) I'm not certain that we want to blame the install issues on Linux. These kinds of things tend to be more of a

Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Howard Chan wrote: > Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:21:06 +0800 > From: Howard Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20? > > Is it me

Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Anders Wallin
> Dear All, > I am using AC-Servo Motor(SANYO DENKI) which have a encoder. The encoder > provide A and /A phase, B and /B phase, Z and /Z phase. The Pin assembly > of HAL, there are not any pins about /A, /B and /Z phases, but there are > provided in the 7I33T. If I would like only using 5I20 to do

Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Howard Chan
Is it mean that I only connect A , B and Z phases to 5I20 or I should use IC(DS3486) to combine A and /A and connect to 5I20? Thank you! Howard > On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Howard Chan wrote: > > >> Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:46:17 +0800 >> From: Howard Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: "Enhanced

Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG for Linux released

2008-06-05 Thread Leslie Newell
> If used incorrectly autopackage installs can go pear shaped. Very. > Yes. I am finding that out the hard way :-( > .run/.sh/.bin have worked well here. I don't know how difficult this might be. > Yes, that is the route I am intending to go. Nixstaller looks to be a good bet. It has the

Re: [Emc-users] Putting Encoder on AC servomotor???

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Epler
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 09:57:53PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi > Servo Dynamic told me that have encoder with too much resolution is not > help because drive will not be able to process or use too much pulses from > encoder. Are there a MAXIMUM limits of pulses from encoder? Typically the

[Emc-users] cinci and viper

2008-06-05 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, At www.mpm1.com:8080/machines/cinci/emc2-stuart.tgz is my directory I built the cinci and viper machines. I updated it this morning and ran the machines. Have fun. thanks Stuart - Check out the new SourceForge

Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Jeff Epler
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 08:46:17PM +0800, Howard Chan wrote: > Dear All, > > I am using AC-Servo Motor(SANYO DENKI) which have a encoder. The encoder > provide A and /A phase, B and /B phase, Z and /Z phase. The Pin assembly > of HAL, there are not any pins about /A, /B and /Z phases, but there ar

Re: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Howard Chan wrote: > Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:46:17 +0800 > From: Howard Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: EMC User > Subject: [Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20? > > Dear All, > > I am using AC-Servo Motor

[Emc-users] How can I connect servo encoder to 5I20?

2008-06-05 Thread Howard Chan
Dear All, I am using AC-Servo Motor(SANYO DENKI) which have a encoder. The encoder provide A and /A phase, B and /B phase, Z and /Z phase. The Pin assembly of HAL, there are not any pins about /A, /B and /Z phases, but there are provided in the 7I33T. If I would like only using 5I20 to do the cont

Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG for Linux released

2008-06-05 Thread jbraun
Leslie Newell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Hi Matt, > > It is rather sad that it is easier to install the Windows version on > Linux than the native Linux version > > SheetCam is a closed source commercial app so I am afraid can't provide > the source. I have had so many problems with Au

Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam TNG for Linux released

2008-06-05 Thread John Thornton
That explains my problems trying to install I'm using 6.06 John On 4 Jun 2008 at 20:16, Leslie Newell wrote: > The moderators of this list have kindly allowed me to announce the > release of SheetCam for Linux. SheetCam is a general purpose 3.1/2D > CAM package. It was originally aimed towards r

Re: [Emc-users] OT Simulation

2008-06-05 Thread Geert De Pecker
Thanks for the info. I gave it a try, but am missing too many dependencies. Guess I'll have to switch to OpenSuse or so. The SuSE enterprise desktop is stable, but isn't really setup for development Alex Joni wrote: > Compiling sim should work fairly easy, once you installed all dependencies. > Ru