Re: [Emc-users] New installation but no pulse output

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 06:32 +0100, Sondergerätebau wrote: > Dear List. > > I have build yesterdat a new installation of EMC2 > on my PC, but I am failing to see any pulses > on my DM25 port with my oscilloscope ? > > Is their a logical procedure to test for logic pulses > on EMC2 ? > > Many than

[Emc-users] New installation but no pulse output

2009-06-12 Thread Sondergerätebau
Dear List. I have build yesterdat a new installation of EMC2 on my PC, but I am failing to see any pulses on my DM25 port with my oscilloscope ? Is their a logical procedure to test for logic pulses on EMC2 ? Many thanks kind regards Al:

[Emc-users] .ngc file RFReview

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
In case anyone is interested, I have an .ngc file that I'll probably run tomorrow, but if anyone finds anything that might improve it, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/EMC2/ngc/encoder-100ppr-4c.ngc -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com

Re: [Emc-users] Metric? and aviation

2009-06-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Aviation uses buttlines, stationlines, waterlines, lofting and the XYZ zero is a distance in front of the plane. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:09 PM, wrote: >> 2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard : >> >>> But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine?? > > > The aviation industry step

Re: [Emc-users] Stopping Bad O

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 20:57 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: > Kirk Wallace wrote: > > Not that I would do anything as silly as setup a O while loop without > > incrementing the conditional counter, then putting EMC2 into an endless > > loop on loading the file, but how would one stop EMC2, other than using

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Drip Feed

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 21:15 -0500, Chris Radek wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 03:06:56PM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > I'm not sure how handy it would be, but can EMC2 be "drip fed" (DNC) > > from a physical port, a file, spreadsheet or other? This may be obvious, > > but I'm drawing a blank. >

Re: [Emc-users] Need to Control 6 Axis Hexapod with 2 Additional Coordinated Axes. All Stepper

2009-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
Rob Antonides wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to use one of Mesa's FPGA cards to drive 8 stepper axes. I > would ideally use 4 of their 7I32 stepper driver cards to drive all 8 > steppers. This is for a 6 axis hexapod with a rotary axis on top and > another stepper for extrusion. > > >From what I u

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote: > Good Grief this is a young group. ;-) > > Happy Birthday Stuart! > Yeah, you always have to top us! Jon -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensin

Re: [Emc-users] Stopping Bad O

2009-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > Not that I would do anything as silly as setup a O while loop without > incrementing the conditional counter, then putting EMC2 into an endless > loop on loading the file, but how would one stop EMC2, other than using > the X (window close) button? > the ESC key is "program

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Drip Feed

2009-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > I'm not sure how handy it would be, but can EMC2 be "drip fed" (DNC) > from a physical port, a file, spreadsheet or other? This may be obvious, > but I'm drawing a blank. > Why, on EARTH, would you want to do this? Drip feed was used on systems with severely limited buffe

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
K.J. Kirwan wrote: > Hi all, > > Wait, are you sure this is a bug? > > I don't know how the motion controller works in EMC2 as > far as its "in-position" system. I don't see any .ini > parameters listed to set "in-position" tolerances. > (Q: What *are* EMC2's in-position tolerance settings, > and

Re: [Emc-users] EMC2 Drip Feed

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 03:06:56PM -0700, Kirk Wallace wrote: > I'm not sure how handy it would be, but can EMC2 be "drip fed" (DNC) > from a physical port, a file, spreadsheet or other? This may be obvious, > but I'm drawing a blank. Nope. Drip feeding was done on controls with limited program m

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:37:22AM -0400, Eric H. Johnson wrote: > > my real question is, should one be able to trust that one > G0 command will complete before a subsequent G0 command starts? EMC has always blended G0 moves. Program a square path of four rapids, run it, and look at the backplot

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
Rainer Schmidt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Shabbir Hussain wrote: > >> G0 should not be used for cutting. It is only for positioning when the tool >> is at safe Z height (out of workpiece and clamps etc.). I have worked with >> Fanuc and Siemens controllers. In these controllers

[Emc-users] [OT]Re: Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 19:33 -0400, Douglas Pollard wrote: > No depth dimension was ever put on a tap drilled hole because you > had likely ground a new lead on your tap when it was needed. The > engineer didn't know how long the lead was so it was up to the machinist. > The only notat

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 08:10 -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >Sorry about the dsyelixc command line. :) I think it is the result > of old age. Today is the marking of another year. Wish me happy > birthday. I am 56 today. > thanks > Stuart Happy Birthday, Stuart, John K. and Alex an

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread K.J. Kirwan
Hi all, Wait, are you sure this is a bug? I don't know how the motion controller works in EMC2 as far as its "in-position" system. I don't see any .ini parameters listed to set "in-position" tolerances. (Q: What *are* EMC2's in-position tolerance settings, and how are they adjusted if not in the

[Emc-users] Paraport output

2009-06-12 Thread cmgfam
I have an older Graphtec Flat bed pen plotter that has it's own "language" to accomplish many graphics tasks. Is it possible to use EMC and it's port connection to send simple text commands to this unit? Seems like a simple 2 1/2 D application not G code however. HP-GL is an option, though the

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Alan Condit
On Jun 12, 2009, at Jun 12, 2009--3:39 PM, emc-users- requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > > From: Rainer Schmidt > Date: Friday2009June 12 Friday2009June 123:37:02 PM PDT > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" us...@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves > R

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Douglas Pollard
Rainer Schmidt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: > >> 2009/6/12 : >> >> >>> My Favorite unit >>> > > In Germany we also use Angstrom per Millennium as Bureaucratic Unit. I > observe similar speeds in the US. There seems to be some cross > contamination in be

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Shabbir Hussain
Yes, G0Z10 should be executed first. Then the other move G0X5Y8 Regards, --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Rainer Schmidt wrote: > From: Rainer Schmidt > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 3:37 PM > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 a

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Kenneth Lerman
It seems clear to me that the described behavior is a bug. You should file a bug report. Ken Rainer Schmidt wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Shabbir Hussain wrote: >> G0 should not be used for cutting. It is only for positioning when the tool >> is at safe Z height (out of workpiece an

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Rainer Schmidt
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Shabbir Hussain wrote: > > G0 should not be used for cutting. It is only for positioning when the tool > is at safe Z height (out of workpiece and clamps etc.). I have worked with > Fanuc and Siemens controllers. In these controllers when G0 move is > programmed,

[Emc-users] Stopping Bad O

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
Not that I would do anything as silly as setup a O while loop without incrementing the conditional counter, then putting EMC2 into an endless loop on loading the file, but how would one stop EMC2, other than using the X (window close) button? -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_s

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Shabbir Hussain
G0 should not be used for cutting. It is only for positioning when the tool is at safe Z height (out of workpiece and clamps etc.). I have worked with Fanuc and Siemens controllers. In these controllers when G0 move is programmed, all the axis used in G0 move starts moving at rapid feeds (set i

Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion

2009-06-12 Thread Andy I
Hi I converted my X2 to CNC a few years ago. Started with home built L297/L298 driver boards but recently changed to micro stepping controllers from Motion Control Products http://www.motioncontrolproducts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=26&product s_id=3. Link to the PC is via a home built break out

[Emc-users] EMC2 Drip Feed

2009-06-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
I'm not sure how handy it would be, but can EMC2 be "drip fed" (DNC) from a physical port, a file, spreadsheet or other? This may be obvious, but I'm drawing a blank. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html California, USA

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Rainer Schmidt
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: > 2009/6/12  : > >> My Favorite unit > In Germany we also use Angstrom per Millennium as Bureaucratic Unit. I observe similar speeds in the US. There seems to be some cross contamination in between processes. --

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 : > My Favorite unit MegaParsec Barn. One gross of them is a reasonable size beer. However it is a very, very, long and very, very, thin unit of volume. -- atp -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Da

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Rainer Schmidt
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, wrote: >>> >>> yea, my head hurts too. ... still better than measuring mass in slugs. >>> >> But that sounds a lot of fun. >> "I was eating at McDonalds and gained three slugs!" haha > > > > My Favorite unit > > The rate of change of acceleration? > > The JERK! > >

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread cmgfam
>> >> yea, my head hurts too. ... still better than measuring mass in slugs. >> > But that sounds a lot of fun. > "I was eating at McDonalds and gained three slugs!" haha My Favorite unit The rate of change of acceleration? The JERK! Cal -

Re: [Emc-users] Metric? and aviation

2009-06-12 Thread cmgfam
> 2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard : > >> But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine?? The aviation industry stepped around the imperial system of linear measurement by ONLY using inches and decimal portions of them. Stations and waterlines! Don't civil engineers use a "foot"

Re: [Emc-users] Subject: Re: Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Dave, Alan, Andy, Thanks for the replies. I have read all of those things too. I would reiterate that this is something that occurs very rarely, but when it does happen it is very damaging. I have two basically identical machines which have been running for the last 7-9 months, and this problem ha

Re: [Emc-users] Metric

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Ian Wright : > You can also find most sizes from 0.10 inch (.254mm) up in > the table on my website at http://tinyurl.com/mhmc27 . Ah, yes. Better layout, more sizes. Still has my name at the bottom, gets my vote :-) -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] Need to Control 6 Axis Hexapod with 2 Additional Coordinated Axes. All Stepper

2009-06-12 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Rob Antonides wrote: Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:48:30 -0700 From: Rob Antonides To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Need to Control 6 Axis Hexapod with 2 Additional Coordinated Axes. All Stepper Hi, I would like to use one of Mesa's FPGA cards to d

[Emc-users] Need to Control 6 Axis Hexapod with 2 Additional Coordinated Axes. All Stepper

2009-06-12 Thread Rob Antonides
Hi, I would like to use one of Mesa's FPGA cards to drive 8 stepper axes. I would ideally use 4 of their 7I32 stepper driver cards to drive all 8 steppers. This is for a 6 axis hexapod with a rotary axis on top and another stepper for extrusion. >From what I understand EMC2 only supports EPP or

Re: [Emc-users] Subject: Re: Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Dave Engvall
On Jun 12, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Alan Condit wrote: >> From: Andy Pugh - 2009-06-12 16:38 >>> >>> 2009/6/12 Eric H. Johnson : >>> It is my understanding that a rapid move (G0) should fully >>> complete before a >>> subsequent motion command will start. In this case I am doing two >>> successive >>>

Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion

2009-06-12 Thread Greg Michalski
Please - MISTER Michalski is my dad :-) Your welcome. There was so much information gathered from open source I just had to publish my work freely. Hope so of it can be of use. Greg www.distinctperspectives.com > -Original Message- > From: Wayne Patterson [mailto:way...@wavelinx.net]

Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion

2009-06-12 Thread Wayne Patterson
I can't thank all you guys enough! BTW, I like your site Mr. Michalski. Again thanks for all the info. lennywayne Greg Michalski wrote: > As a side note I believe the wiki reference on the X3 is the one I posted. > Much more info at ww.distinctperspectives.com I realize it's not the same > machine

[Emc-users] Subject: Re: Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Alan Condit
> From: Andy Pugh - 2009-06-12 16:38 >> >> 2009/6/12 Eric H. Johnson : >> It is my understanding that a rapid move (G0) should fully >> complete before a >> subsequent motion command will start. In this case I am doing two >> successive >> G0 moves, where in very rare occasions, > > I don't th

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Douglas Pollard
Andy Pugh wrote: > 2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard : > > >> The Germans have have a set of metric standards the English have >> ISO standards and the Spanish have still another. >> > > I _think_ that DIN (German) BS( British) JIS (Japanes) and the rest > have all converged on ISO (Inrternati

Re: [Emc-users] Metric

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
Andy wrote...<< You can also find most sizes from 0.10 inch (.254mm) up in the table on my website at http://tinyurl.com/mhmc27 . This information is also down-loadable as an Excel file if you want to keep a copy in the workshop. Ian ---

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Dave Engvall
Good Grief this is a young group. ;-) Happy Birthday Stuart! Dave On Jun 12, 2009, at 9:03 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> Gentlemen, >>Sorry about the dsyelixc command line. :) I think it is the result >> of old age. Today is the marking of another year. Wish me happy >> b

Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion

2009-06-12 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Wayne Patterson wrote: > Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:04:39 -0500 > From: Wayne Patterson > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] X2 conversion > > Hey Guys, > I am at a point that I need to conver

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Shabbir Hussain
Happy birthday, Stuart Shabbir --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Jon Elson wrote: > From: Jon Elson > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 9:03 AM > Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > Gentlemen, > >    Sorry about the dsyelixc command line. :)

Re: [Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Eric H. Johnson : > It is my understanding that a rapid move (G0) should fully complete before a > subsequent motion command will start. In this case I am doing two successive > G0 moves, where in very rare occasions, I don't think that is necessarily true. Look at http://wiki.linuxcnc.

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >Sorry about the dsyelixc command line. :) I think it is the result > of old age. Today is the marking of another year. Wish me happy > birthday. I am 56 today. > Wow! You are a lot closer to me than I thought! I'm 58. Happy birthday, Stuart! Jon ---

Re: [Emc-users] Metric

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
Jack wrote: <<<>>> The French tried it during the French Revolution when it was mandated by a decree on 5 Oct 1793. It was brought into use in 1794 and abandoned in 1795 The Chinese used a decimal time system alongside a duodecimal one for two or three thousand years. Their day was divided

Re: [Emc-users] Metric

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
Jack wrote... <<<>> Why do programmers always get Christmas and Halloween mixed up? Because DEC 25 = OCT 31 Ian -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing op

Re: [Emc-users] Speaking of metric

2009-06-12 Thread John Prentice
> Ed Nisley wrote > Given that money is power, I propose we measure & report all > financial changes in decibels. > > Hearing "The Dow was down 3 dB" yesterday wouldn't be very > disturbing, would it? > > Your previously extortionate 20% credit card rate would drop > to a mere 0.8 dB. Easy

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Greg Michalski
Andy - That is a wonderful table!!! Not to diminish it _any_ way shape of form but if one of our more savvy web types could make that page into frames so the column headings stay as you scroll down that would be an immensely useful shop/drafting board (antiquated term I know - but my company for s

[Emc-users] Successive G0 moves

2009-06-12 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Hi all, It is my understanding that a rapid move (G0) should fully complete before a subsequent motion command will start. In this case I am doing two successive G0 moves, where in very rare occasions, the second G0 move will start to move before the first entirely completes. For example: G0 X20

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Jack Coats : > > Would it also help if we did the same for time and went to a decimal clock > with 10 hours per day > and 100 minutes per hour, and 100 seconds per minute? It would certainly be a useful boost to the clockmaking and watchmaking industries. I did see a suggestion that 13

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard : >      The Germans have have a set of metric standards the English have > ISO standards and the Spanish have still another. I _think_ that DIN (German) BS( British) JIS (Japanes) and the rest have all converged on ISO (Inrternational) but I might be wrong. >       Imp

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Jack Coats
Would it also help if we did the same for time and went to a decimal clock with 10 hours per day and 100 minutes per hour, and 100 seconds per minute? (it would also be more accurate, 100,000 seconds per day versus 86,400, so the seconds would be smaller too!) Also time zones could be decimal, who

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >Sorry about the dsyelixc command line. :) I think it is the result > of old age. Today is the marking of another year. Wish me happy > birthday. I am 56 today. > thanks > Stuart > Happy birthday, Stuart. You look pretty good for 65. (Pardon my dislexia.

Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion

2009-06-12 Thread Greg Michalski
As a side note I believe the wiki reference on the X3 is the one I posted. Much more info at ww.distinctperspectives.com I realize it's not the same machine but the principles in making a backlash free mechanical setup (thus reducing headaches later) are well worth reading and studying. Plans are

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Alex Joni
Happy Birthday! > Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> Gentlemen, >>I am 56 today. > > > Happy Birthday. You have me by a few - 47 last week. Me by a couple more :) 29 three weeks ago.. Alex -- Crystal Reports - New Free

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Douglas Pollard
Rainer Schmidt wrote: > I can vouch for the problems the us imperial system is creating. > There is not a single day in a custom shop I know off where there are > no parts messed up because of conversion problems which simply would > not exist with the metric system. Instead of simply shifting the

Re: [Emc-users] X2 conversion

2009-06-12 Thread John Thornton
On 12 Jun 2009 at 9:04, Wayne Patterson wrote: > Hey Guys, > I am at a point that I need to convert my Sieg X2 mill to CNC > control. I > have found two kits/plans online and wanted to know if anyone on the > list has used them? They are the "Steele Company's" conversion > kit/plan > and the "F

[Emc-users] X2 conversion

2009-06-12 Thread Wayne Patterson
Hey Guys, I am at a point that I need to convert my Sieg X2 mill to CNC control. I have found two kits/plans online and wanted to know if anyone on the list has used them? They are the "Steele Company's" conversion kit/plan and the "FigNoggle Designs" kits/plans. For what it is worth I plan on

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread John Kasunich
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >I am 56 today. Happy Birthday. You have me by a few - 47 last week. John -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option th

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Sorry about the dsyelixc command line. :) I think it is the result of old age. Today is the marking of another year. Wish me happy birthday. I am 56 today. thanks Stuart On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, >   This is the return from the command line

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, This is the return from the command line start. stus...@stustev-laptop:~$ emc2-trunk-sim/scripts/emc EMC2 - 2.4.0~pre Machine configuration directory is '/home/stustev/emc2-trunk-sim/configs/vismach' Machine configuration file is '5axhydrotel.ini' Starting EMC2... libnml/cms/cms_cfg.

Re: [Emc-users] emc.nbl

2009-06-12 Thread Jeff Epler
On TRUNK, you should be able to remove [EMC]NML_FILE from your inifile. WHen you do this, emc.nml in a default location will be used instead. All the sample inifiles on TRUNK were edited to work this way around May 4 2009. The Makefiles on TRUNK no longer make any copies of emc.nml. I believe Al

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Rainer Schmidt
I can vouch for the problems the us imperial system is creating. There is not a single day in a custom shop I know off where there are no parts messed up because of conversion problems which simply would not exist with the metric system. Instead of simply shifting the decimal point one has to be aw

Re: [Emc-users] Metrics

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
Andy Pugh wrote: <>> What's one of those Andy? ;-) - Oh, maybe you mean Metre and not something for measuring with... time someone standardised the 'English' language ( and yes, I did spell 'standardised' correctly!) I think you will find that the International Master Kilogram IS get

[Emc-users] Speaking of metric

2009-06-12 Thread Ed Nisley
Given that money is power, I propose we measure & report all financial changes in decibels. Hearing "The Dow was down 3 dB" yesterday wouldn't be very disturbing, would it? Your previously extortionate 20% credit card rate would drop to a mere 0.8 dB. But your CDs would yield 0.08 dB and let'

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Ian Wright : > this illustrates one of the > sillinesses of our use of the metric system - 1 inch is a > good approximation but 2.54mm is not an approximation, its a > direct conversion from an inch and accurate to 4 thou. FWIW an inch is _exactly_ 25.4mm as it was officially redefined

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard : > But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine?? Absolutely none at all. The numbers are just numbers, and it doesn't matter what the units are as they are always [length] There does seem to be a little confusion inside EMC between /second and

Re: [Emc-users] Metrics

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
> back that metric is scientific measurement because it is a part of the > > circumference of the world. That may matter to a map maker but I don't <<<>>> In actual fact, the metre has no relationship to any physical thing. It arose as a 'standard' measurement in 1791 after the French revo

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
Jack wrote <<< You sure its about 2.54mm and not 2.55mm? My thumb is maybe wider than yours this illustrates one of the sillinesses of our use of the metric system - 1 inch is a good approximation but 2.54mm is not an approximation, its a direct conversion from an inch and accurate to

Re: [Emc-users] Metricks - Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
> > I have argued this with many German machinists and they always > > come back that metric is scientific measurement because it > is a part > > of the circumference of the world. That may matter to a > map maker but > > I don't > > That's very unscientific definition of metric system a

Re: [Emc-users] Mill-Drill needs steppers and servos?

2009-06-12 Thread Sven Wesley
2009/6/12 Steve Blackmore > > Nahh - it's only inches But, as it's mainly cutting ply, laminate > and the odd Al sheet it's plenty good enough. > > 2 x 30mm wide belt, very high tension. A word of warning - The belt > tension is often more than the rest of the bearings/mounts can stand so > be

Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning

2009-06-12 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
> -Original Message- > From: Stephen Wille Padnos [mailto:spad...@sover.net] > Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 2:51 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo tuning > > Jon Elson wrote: > > >Frank Tkalcevic wrote: > > > > > >>I have a pair of Yaskawa ser

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Douglas Pollard wrote: .. > But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine?? Let me answer with a question: what's easier to add, 3/8 + 11/32 or 0.375 + 0.34375? While this is CNC related mailing list, standards are critical for clear communications between interested