Re: [Emc-users] Engrave.py cuts deeper and deeper

2009-09-29 Thread Sven Wesley
2009/9/29 Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com Sven Wesley wrote: I can cannot see any changes in speed even if I push put all my body weight on the Z-axis, it just runs super easy and the motors never gets warm. It doesn't _seem_ to be a force/power problem. I have put so much money and

Re: [Emc-users] Engrave.py cuts deeper and deeper

2009-09-29 Thread Sven Wesley
2009/9/29 cogoman cogo...@verizon.net I am catching up on my EMAIL, and I've still got 10 EMC digests to read, but I wanted to comment on the quote below. This gives the impression that you are setting the PID values for the servo motor on the bench with nothing attached. This is not a good

Re: [Emc-users] srm?

2009-09-29 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Have you tried ls /home/aram/Desktop/TR2~ to see if the directory actually exists? Mark At 01:03 AM 9/29/2009, you wrote: I try with ~ and without and still No such directory I used rm and still No such directory I just type this into Terminals. Is this way to do that? thanks aram On Mon,

Re: [Emc-users] Error in debounce documentation

2009-09-29 Thread John Thornton
Thanks for reporting this. The manuals have been corrected. You have to loose the quotes as well like this: loadrt debounce cfg=1,2,3 John On 28 Sep 2009 at 12:42, Eric H. Johnson wrote: HI all, This was from Andy's inquiry of a couple days ago. It appears that the documentation for the

[Emc-users] Rotation center

2009-09-29 Thread 5150
Hi, is it possible, in a 4 axes machine, modify the rotation center of the 4th axis? In other words, how can I say to the system which is the geometry? Thank you Luigi -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg;

[Emc-users] Hardware latency detector

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Buesch
Hi, I think the following new tool might be useful for some people here. It's a tool to measure hardware latency. That's latency _not_ caused by linux, but by the BIOS or something else. So if you observe latencies beyond acceptable limits with this detector, you can pretty much go and buy new

Re: [Emc-users] srm?

2009-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
a...@conceptmachinery.com wrote: I try with ~ and without and still No such directory I used rm and still No such directory I just type this into Terminals. Is this way to do that? When filenames have strange characters in them, like spaces, commas, and punctuation symbols that mean

[Emc-users] Mcode scripting ??

2009-09-29 Thread VMAXEmbarq
I see where EMC2 supports User Mcodes. What scripting language is used to do so? Can you include Gcode moves in the Mcode as well. I have Mcodes from another system that do things like probing solutions. These functions are called as Mcodes and can be run from the Gcode side and from the MDI

Re: [Emc-users] G76 Threading

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
-- Forwarded message -- From: Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com Date: 2009/9/27 Subject: Re: G76 Threading To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 2009/9/27 Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDA48nLdbiI More data after a long

[Emc-users] G76 Threading

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
(I thought you were all ignoring my questions, but I suspect that I was sending from an email address not registered with the listserver. Brace yourselves for a flurry of posts) I seem to be having a spot of bother with G76. I thought it was working fine, then noticed that the z axis was running

Re: [Emc-users] G76 Threading

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/9/27 Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com: 2009/9/27 Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDA48nLdbiI More information. G33 is exactly the same. Smaller pitches are better, but even 1.25mm pitch (20 tpi) occasionally gets the wobbles. -- atp -- atp

[Emc-users] Spindle Coordinated Motion

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
As it seems that nobody has any ideas about my thread-cutting issues (and making a higher-resolution encoder with a smaller index pulse didn't help at all) I have now decided I need to know how G76 and G33 work, ie what the control algorithm is. Is there a writeup anywhere, or do I need to look at

[Emc-users] Fwd: Feature Request.

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
I understand that some interpreters write the current z,y,z etc values to memory registers (I believe Fanuc uses #5041-#5046) Would it be possible to add that to EMC2? at the end of each move would be often enough. It would be handy for adaptive G-gode modules so that you could jog to a start

[Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
(Sorry to start yet another thread on much the same subject, but this is a bit broader-ranging) It seems that spindle-synchronised motion is very sensitive to encoder regularity. Using the p-port to read the encoder position means that as the encoder linecount goes up, quantisation error in the

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Dave Caroline
do you need one of use to make/cut a disk Dave Caroline (archivist) -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/9/29 Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com: do you need one of use to make/cut a disk My machine has a milling head and a 4th axis, so making my own is fairly straightforward (But thanks for the offer). However I run the risk of doing a lot of machining and still having exactly the

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Dave Caroline
you need a good contrast with reflective, I prefer a gap type, ambient light is another problem to watch for Dave Caroline -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer

Re: [Emc-users] G76 Threading

2009-09-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:04 +0100, Andy Pugh wrote: ... snip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDA48nLdbiI More data after a long discussion on the IRC channel: HAL setup: http://www.pastebin.ca/1581821 Halscope grabs: http://www.atp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/G76.png

Re: [Emc-users] Mcode scripting ??

2009-09-29 Thread robert
VMAXEmbarq wrote: Does EMC support this type of function ? From the user manual it seems that EMC only supports Mcode that do system functions such as turn on this or turn off that. Hi i believe there is no way at the moment to include Gcode in a coustom Mcode function as its just a

Re: [Emc-users] G76 Threading

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/9/29 Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com: I have only read the original post and watched the video, so I may be off base here. I had the same symptoms on my lathe. I believe the thread pitch and spindle RPM are at a rate that is beyond the Z axis abilities to accelerate. I slowed my

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 17:43 +0100, Andy Pugh wrote: 2009/9/29 Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com: do you need one of use to make/cut a disk My machine has a milling head and a 4th axis, so making my own is fairly straightforward (But thanks for the offer). However I run the risk

[Emc-users] feed hold in MDI

2009-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I need feed hold to work in MDI. Is that a lot of work? Is it something I can try to do (with help and guidance)? thanks Stuart -- you can lead a person to knowledge but you cannot make him think -- Come

Re: [Emc-users] feed hold in MDI

2009-09-29 Thread Alex Joni
That should work using the hal pin from the motion controller. Feed override - 0 should also do the trick. Regards, Alex -- From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:06 PM To: EMC2-Users-List

Re: [Emc-users] feed hold in MDI

2009-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, If it is a matter of hal configuration I am a happy camper. I will work on it and report what I find. I need to do some ladder work anyway. thanks Stuart On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Alex Joni alex.j...@robcon.ro wrote: That should work using the hal pin from the motion

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/9/29 Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com: I still think your threading problem is due to the Z acceleration issue. You may try cutting an air thread that is as long as your Z axis will allow. If your thread wanders the same across the thread then I would look into your encoder more.

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Andy Pugh wrote: (Sorry to start yet another thread on much the same subject, but this is a bit broader-ranging) It seems that spindle-synchronised motion is very sensitive to encoder regularity. Using the p-port to read the encoder position means that as the encoder linecount goes up,

Re: [Emc-users] feed hold in MDI

2009-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, I need feed hold to work in MDI. Is that a lot of work? Is it something I can try to do (with help and guidance)? If you set up some kind of external (non-keyboard) control for feed override, that will work as EMC exists, now. Do you have a spare

Re: [Emc-users] Encoders

2009-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Andy Pugh wrote: My system seems to track a 50-line encoder adequately, would that nromally be considered enough resolution for threading? 50 lines is 200 quadrature counts, should be fine for threading, I would think. That is a unique position reading for every 360/200 = 1.8 degrees of

Re: [Emc-users] feed hold in MDI

2009-09-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Jon, I have a pulse generator tied to the slider bar. When I turn the feed down the slides stop. I want the feed hold button to stop the feed immediately (like it does when running the program). I have the feed hold button working through a classic ladder program. I will work to

Re: [Emc-users] Engrave.py cuts deeper and deeper

2009-09-29 Thread Jon Elson
Jon Elson wrote: Sven Wesley wrote: I can cannot see any changes in speed even if I push put all my body weight on the Z-axis, it just runs super easy and the motors never gets warm. It doesn't _seem_ to be a force/power problem. I have put so much money and time in building a servo

Re: [Emc-users] feed hold in MDI

2009-09-29 Thread Chris Morley
I have feedback from the spindle drive to tell the machine when the spindle drive has an error. I need to incorporate that into ladder also. I want the machine to go into feed hold when the spindle drive errors. thanks Stuart I think we need to add a non maskable motion hold pin to

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle soft start

2009-09-29 Thread Andy Ibbotson
Ok, I'm still trying to setup my scaling in PDM mode. I have a base period of 3ns and need to configure pwmgen to gove a 2kHz outout for a commanded spindle speed of 4000rpm - equation to 10V output from my DAC. Assuming no offsets is there a method for calcuating pwmgen.N.scale ? or is