Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Peter Blodow
Hello Kirk, I don't see why you should not be able to measure your mains phases with an ordinary oscilloscope, set up as usual. At least in this country, the three phases of mains current are ground referenced, 230 V effective voltage to neutral. Between the phases, as can be figured with a tri

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:29:43 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 21:23 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 09:20:25 PM Roland Jollivet did opine: > > > What about using a few mains>>9V transformers. Then you can common > > > the secondaries. Sure, they'l

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 22:08 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:06:08 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > > > On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:18 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > ... snip > > > > > A couple isolation/stepdown transformers is a good way > > > (I was going to say filament

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 21:23 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 09:20:25 PM Roland Jollivet did opine: > > > What about using a few mains>>9V transformers. Then you can common the > > secondaries. Sure, they'll all be phase shifted, but you should be able > > to see what's goin

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:06:08 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:18 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > ... snip > > > A couple isolation/stepdown transformers is a good way > > (I was going to say filament transformer but I guess not many would > > know what that is anymore

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 09:57:10 PM BRIAN GLACKIN did opine: > I forgott o mention. Check out Woodgears.ca for his tenoning jigs - > lots of good stuff there. > Yup, but he also has a decent table saw, where mine is a Ryobi BT-3000 I've covered with formica, and equipt with a 'Shark Fin' (I

Re: [Emc-users] unexpected realtime delay

2011-03-15 Thread Tom Easterday
I had this problem on my mill that has a D510 board in it. I have not had the error pop up since disabling hyper threading in bios and adding isolcpus to the boot file. FWIW... -Tom On Mar 15, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Joel Jacobs wrote: > Hi, > Is there any way to adjust the sensitivity or suppress

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 09:20:25 PM Roland Jollivet did opine: > What about using a few mains>>9V transformers. Then you can common the > secondaries. Sure, they'll all be phase shifted, but you should be able > to see what's going on, and I think you'll see spikes or whatever in > the waveform

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 08:46:44 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: > In order to investigate three phase issues more, it would be nice to > measure at least two waves at a time. I have a two channel scope, but > the channels are ground referenced. I can float the scope, but I think > this will only al

Re: [Emc-users] unexpected realtime delay

2011-03-15 Thread Joel Jacobs
Thanks for the suggestions! Running the latency test program seemed to top out around 15us which I was quite pleased with but never ran the test more than 10 min or so. I have bios power management and screen saver disabled. Just read about the SMI thing in the wiki and I would like to do some te

Re: [Emc-users] axis plot loses chunks over time

2011-03-15 Thread Chris Radek
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 03:51:55PM -0500, forget color wrote: > I'm controlling axis via emcrsh. It is not uncommon for me to rack up > hundreds of G1 moves (as well as many more G0) throughout a session. > I have found that the live plot in Axis will occasionally lose chunks > of what it has draw

[Emc-users] axis plot loses chunks over time

2011-03-15 Thread forget color
I'm controlling axis via emcrsh. It is not uncommon for me to rack up hundreds of G1 moves (as well as many more G0) throughout a session. I have found that the live plot in Axis will occasionally lose chunks of what it has drawn, seemingly at random, but apparently only after it has been going fo

Re: [Emc-users] arc intersection question

2011-03-15 Thread forget color
Kim's first answer is on the right track for me. I'm calculating all of the moves outside of EMC2 and passing them via emcrsh to Axis, one at a time. So I can't use the built-in viewer to know. Basically I need a formula that will tell me if the arc will go out of bounds given the things I alrea

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 11:18 -0700, Peter C. Wallace wrote: ... snip > A couple isolation/stepdown transformers is a good way > (I was going to say filament transformer but I guess not many would know what > that is anymore) > > > Peter Wallace > Mesa Electronics Thanks Peter, Roland, Rafael, Jo

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
I forgott o mention. Check out Woodgears.ca for his tenoning jigs - lots of good stuff there. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: > >> How did you go about mounting it to your rig, Brian? >> >> I mounted mine using three pieces of 3/4" MDF > > Two had a slot cut to fit the shaf

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/15/2011 12:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > In order to investigate three phase issues more, it would be nice to > measure at least two waves at a time. I have a two channel scope, but > the channels are ground referenced. I can float the scope, but I think > this will only allow me to measure on

[Emc-users] Emc2 automake changes to get my own module compiled

2011-03-15 Thread jros
Hi, I've finally have success implementing a Virtual machine, with 3 axes and a given dynamics. I've modified hal_motenc.c to that end. I would like to rename that file so that is compatible with the emc2 distro. How/Where should I change the compilation toolchain to get automagically my hal_m

Re: [Emc-users] How to access the SERVO_PERIOD from a component?

2011-03-15 Thread jros
Thanks, I seen that functions that are put in a thread, have function(..., long period); as a argument. I'm taking this an it works if assumed that the given period is in seconds. Thanks for the clue, Javier On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 18:45 +, andy pugh wrote: > On 14 March 2011 17:56, jros

[Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Cecil Thomas
Look around in your junk box to see if you have any 120 ac to low voltage ac charging transformers for your battery powered drills, saws, garden clippers etc. The secondary voltage isn't an issue as you are looking at phase BUT.. make sure they are AC secondary of course. I have found that

Re: [Emc-users] unexpected realtime delay

2011-03-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Joel Jacobs wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:22:04 -0400 > From: Joel Jacobs > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Emc-users] unexpected realtime delay > > Hi, > Is there any way to adjust the sensitivity o

Re: [Emc-users] unexpected realtime delay

2011-03-15 Thread Viesturs Lācis
You can start with: 1) disabling the hyperthreading and 2) dedicating one of Atom's cores to EMC (and other RTAI functions) by adding "isolcpus=1" to grub Unfortunately I cannot explain in more detail, how exactly to do it, so I can only advice asking uncle google. Viesturs 2011/3/15 Joel Jacobs

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 03/15/2011 11:18 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Kirk Wallace wrote: > >> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:16:18 -0700 >> From: Kirk Wallace >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Subject: [Emc-users] Floating Oscillosc

[Emc-users] unexpected realtime delay

2011-03-15 Thread Joel Jacobs
Hi, Is there any way to adjust the sensitivity or suppress this error? I have an Atom D525 running the latest EMC2 from the repositories (Ubuntu 10.04). I have a Mesa 7I43 and Gecko 320 servo drives. I have no base thread at all, just the servo thread running at 700us. At 1ms I would get random

Re: [Emc-users] Icon for pyVCP

2011-03-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 05:33 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: ... snip > > I have a shell script called config_modio that contains: > > " > > cd /home/kwallace/emc2/homann/modio_config > > halrun -I h_modio_config.hal > > Make sure there's no CR/LF after the h_modio_config.hal. If that > doesn't fix it,

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Roland Jollivet
What about using a few mains>>9V transformers. Then you can common the secondaries. Sure, they'll all be phase shifted, but you should be able to see what's going on, and I think you'll see spikes or whatever in the waveform with a cutoff at about 400Hz. Regards Roland On 15 March 2011 20:16, Ki

Re: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:16:18 -0700 > From: Kirk Wallace > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope > > In order to investigate three phase issues more

[Emc-users] Floating Oscilloscope

2011-03-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
In order to investigate three phase issues more, it would be nice to measure at least two waves at a time. I have a two channel scope, but the channels are ground referenced. I can float the scope, but I think this will only allow me to measure one signal, or two if they happen to have the same ref

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
> > > How did you go about mounting it to your rig, Brian? > > I mounted mine using three pieces of 3/4" MDF Two had a slot cut to fit the shaft of the spindle. I also put notches in the inner curve where the casting lines on the spindle would meet the slot. The third piece acts as a guillotine

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:38:17 AM BRIAN GLACKIN did opine: > weight. HF also has a die grinder that might work too. I'll go look > > > again. > > I use HF's Long Shaft Die Grinder for $24.99 (on sale with 20% off > coupon). If you go this route, check the collet end as some can have > al

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:27:07 AM andy pugh did opine: > On 15 March 2011 04:32, gene heskett wrote: > > I knocked that elderly B&D apart tonight, far enough to see that it > > only needs the bearing on the chuck end of the shaft, but the collet > > is really a trashy collet, so if I follow

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 09:49:41 AM andy pugh did opine: > On 15 March 2011 04:32, gene heskett wrote: > > I knocked that elderly B&D apart tonight, far enough to see that it > > only needs the bearing on the chuck end of the shaft, but the collet > > is really a trashy collet, so if I follow

[Emc-users] An interesting way to hold things together:

2011-03-15 Thread andy pugh
If you look at the last two pictures of this boring head: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=26077389 Wohlhaupter call it a differential screw. I assume this means that it has two different thread pitches, though it could mean that there are LH and RH sections. In either cas

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
weight. HF also has a die grinder that might work too. I'll go look > again. > I use HF's Long Shaft Die Grinder for $24.99 (on sale with 20% off coupon). If you go this route, check the collet end as some can have along of play. I currently have 2 of these (for 1/4" and 1/8" collets). The coll

Re: [Emc-users] Can G code subs RECURSIVELY call themselves?

2011-03-15 Thread andy pugh
(Googles) Hmm, Pretty. Interesting that most people square-up cubes on a mill, whereas even with a mill I prefer to do it with a lathe and a 4-jaw chuck (because of the 2-way square clamping) -- atp "Torque wrenches are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" -

Re: [Emc-users] higher speed spindle

2011-03-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 March 2011 04:32, gene heskett wrote: > I knocked that elderly B&D apart tonight, far enough to see that it only > needs the bearing on the chuck end of the shaft, but the collet is really a > trashy collet, so if I follow that idea, I may as well start by making my > own shaft to take a de

Re: [Emc-users] Icon for pyVCP

2011-03-15 Thread Mark Wendt
On 03/14/2011 06:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 12:22 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: >> On 03/14/2011 12:20 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: >>> On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 05:37 -0400, Mark Wendt wrote: >>> ... snip Are you already starting it from a launcher on the desktop? >>> ... snip >>

Re: [Emc-users] arc intersection question

2011-03-15 Thread Alex Joni
EMC only checks if the endpoints are outside the work envelope, not intermediary points on the arc. You can still load the program and look outside the bounds (if set up properly you see the extent of travel in the preview). Regards, Alex > Or, can you just let EMC check it for you? > If you se

Re: [Emc-users] arc intersection question

2011-03-15 Thread Kim Kirwan
Or, can you just let EMC check it for you? If you set the work envelope of your machine correctly, EMC will tell you if there are problems. "Program exceeds machine limits" "Program exceed machine (max/min) on axis (X/Y/Z/A/B/C/U/V/W)" " [ Run Anyway ] [ Cancel ] " And if you're using "

Re: [Emc-users] arc intersection question

2011-03-15 Thread Kim Kirwan
You probably want to find the arc center first. This should help: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1920&bih=934&q=find+the+center+of+an+arc+from+two+points&aq=f&aqi=g4g-m4&aql=&oq= The first reference isn't bad. Once you have the center, then it's easier to check around the circ

[Emc-users] arc intersection question

2011-03-15 Thread forget color
this is more of a math question than an EMC question, but I need the question for EMC so thought someone else might have run into it. I'm trying to figure out how I can calculate whether an arc will go outside the working area of my CNC. Let's say I have an arc from the following parameters: x1,