[Emc-users] creating logic with lut5.9

2011-10-16 Thread Michael Haberler
lut5 is quite useful - I rather use that than gobs of and,or and not here's a trivial script to make it a bit easier to use: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Lut5 given a boolean expression of inputs, it will create truth table and function value ready to paste into a HAL file. Exam

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Ok, so the principle is: What goes in must come out. It goes in via the mains cable, but at the moment it comes out into thin air around the signal cable (or whatever it is) that picks up / radiates the noise. (It is the same really for this excersize) So whatabout forcing the interference to come

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-16 Thread Bruce Klawiter
> I must have not have been very clear on that, what I said or >meant to say is,  I disconnected the Z and Y axis from the >DAC and disconnected all the connectors from the Y and Z > >amps. With the Y and Z axis disconnected the X axis still twitches. >I have disconnected the X axis and the Y a

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-16 Thread Jon Elson
Bruce Klawiter wrote: > > >> My understanding from a message about a week ago was that >> you had disconnected the DAC board from the Z axis amp, and >> still saw a twitch on the Z at the same time as the X twitched. >> > > I must have not have been very clear on that, what I said or me

Re: [Emc-users] and now for something completely different---visualizing EMC2 configurations

2011-10-16 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 10/16/2011 06:07 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > Your comment about hal files possibly being hierarchical or sequential > is spot on. Handling multiple .hal files would be a trivial extension of > my current script (love that Python!). When I first wrote down what I > thought would be a useful set of

Re: [Emc-users] and now for something completely different---visualizing EMC2 configurations

2011-10-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/16/2011 6:24 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 16 October 2011 04:12, Kent A. Reed wrote: > >> You can see what I'm up to at >> https://sites.google.com/site/manisbutareed (I apologize for the >> small-ish images. > I am quite impressed. It looks like it could be very useful for > visualising other

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Tom Easterday
On Oct 16, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > Its not a fixed value: > Reasonable is perhaps 20 % greater than the machine (EMCs limits) so there is > always headroom for the hardware > > If these numbers are less than the machine (EMCs) limits you will get > following errors We have

Re: [Emc-users] and now for something completely different---visualizing EMC2 configurations

2011-10-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/16/2011 4:42 PM, Thomas Powderly wrote: > Kent, > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: >> ... >> I have spent some of my copious free time (which is actually almost no >> time for reasons I won't go into here) seeing how far I had to go to >> create easier-to-understand vi

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Tom Easterday wrote: > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:43:21 -0400 > From: Tom Easterday > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders > > > On Oct 16, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Peter C.

Re: [Emc-users] and now for something completely different---visualizing EMC2 configurations

2011-10-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/16/2011 1:14 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 23:12 -0400, Kent A. Reed wrote: > ... snip >> I've often thought it would be nice to be able to gen >> up visualizations of EMC2 configurations easily and quickly. > ... snip > > This may be totally unrelated other than this link a

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Tom Easterday
On Oct 16, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: >>> >> Peter, >> >> Is there any reason not to open up the stepgen limits on accel and >> velocity so they cannot possibly be a limiting factor? Make them >> 1.0EE6 or so? >> >> Dave > > Yes, in some very specific situations, the current

Re: [Emc-users] RELEASED: Enhanced Machine Controller 2.4.7

2011-10-16 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 10/16/2011 9:08 AM, Jeff Epler wrote: > Enhanced Machine Controller 2.4.7 has been released. Debian packages > are availble from the regular package servers. A source tarball is > available at > http://linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/lucid/emc2.4/source/emc2_2.4.7.tar.gz > > Due to a mistake duri

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
>> > Peter, > > Is there any reason not to open up the stepgen limits on accel and > velocity so they cannot possibly be a limiting factor? Make them > 1.0EE6 or so? > > Dave Yes, in some very specific situations, the current stepgen driver has some pathologies when its has unlimited accelerati

Re: [Emc-users] and now for something completely different---visualizing EMC2 configurations

2011-10-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 October 2011 04:12, Kent A. Reed wrote: > You can see what I'm up to at > https://sites.google.com/site/manisbutareed (I apologize for the > small-ish images. I am quite impressed. It looks like it could be very useful for visualising other people's configs when answering queries on the fo

Re: [Emc-users] and now for something completely different---visualizing EMC2 configurations

2011-10-16 Thread Thomas Powderly
Kent, On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote: > Gentle persons: > > You've kindly put up with me bloviating on all manner of subjects for > some years now. I owe you a more direct contribution. > > Despite the fact that I'm a lexical kind of guy who believes in the Tao > of Unix (ev

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Andy Ibbotson
Follow up... Disconnected the UPS from the 240V mains and system is not affected by lights starting. Also, when reconnected the only thing that make the motors jump are the lights even the compressor is ok - ignore my comment above. -- From: "Andy

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-16 Thread Bruce Klawiter
>My understanding from a message about a week ago was that >you had disconnected the DAC board from the Z axis amp, and >still saw a twitch on the Z at the same time as the X twitched.  I must have not have been very clear on that, what I said or meant to say is,  I disconnected the Z and Y

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Andy Ibbotson
No such things in the box. -- From: "Roland Jollivet" Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 7:35 PM To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal > Odd question.. > > Do you have slotted photo-interrupters that mi

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Dave
On 10/15/2011 9:46 PM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: > On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, Tom Easterday wrote: > > >> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 20:53:44 -0400 >> From: Tom Easterday >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] config

[Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Roland Jollivet
Odd question.. Do you have slotted photo-interrupters that might be picking up the light flicker? It's unlikely, but no harm in ruling it out. Regards Roland On 16 October 2011 14:21, Andy Ibbotson wrote: > Hi > I have my BF30 up and running EMC2 but I'm having problems with EMC noise. > Whe

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Andy Ibbotson
Wow! thanks for all your help! BF30 build thread is here Gene, Shop lights are in metal cases and worst light does have two goes at coming on. Machine jumps even with lights that start first time though. Regarding the PSU and 7i43 I have to admit that I'm not sure which ground to connect where

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 13:21 +0100, Andy Ibbotson wrote: ... snip > When I switch on the shop fluorescent lights they cause the motors to > "jump" anyone got any advice re. shielding. ... snip In case it might apply, when I built this igniter: http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Ignitor/ I exp

Re: [Emc-users] and now for something completely different---visualizing EMC2 configurations

2011-10-16 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2011-10-15 at 23:12 -0400, Kent A. Reed wrote: ... snip > I've often thought it would be nice to be able to gen > up visualizations of EMC2 configurations easily and quickly. ... snip This may be totally unrelated other than this link also graphs HAL: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl?E

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Peter C. Wallace wrote: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:21:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Peter C. Wallace Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Tom Easterday wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Tom Easterday wrote: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 10:45:34 -0400 From: Tom Easterday Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders Well, apparently the problem didn't get resolved with

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011, Andy Ibbotson wrote: > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:21:13 +0100 > From: Andy Ibbotson > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal > > Hi I have my BF30 up and running EMC2 but

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:37:29 AM Tom Easterday did opine: > Well, apparently the problem didn't get resolved with the jog velocity > vs axis velocity thing…. > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Peter Jensen > > Subject: Screenshots > > Date: October 16, 2011 2:19:43 AM EDT > > To: Tom

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 10/16/2011 06:51 AM, Andy Ibbotson wrote: > Hi Jan, > Workshop is on a 20A spur, light come off the spur on a 5A spur. CNC system > (controller and PC) are connected to a UPS with surge protection. I'll give > your suggestions a try. Since the controller and PC are on an ups, try unplugging t

Re: [Emc-users] RELEASED: Enhanced Machine Controller 2.4.7

2011-10-16 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:31:07 AM Jeff Epler did opine: > Enhanced Machine Controller 2.4.7 has been released. Debian packages > are availble from the regular package servers. A source tarball is > available at > http://linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/lucid/emc2.4/source/emc2_2.4.7.tar.gz > >

Re: [Emc-users] Source tree at server hacked

2011-10-16 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 10/15/2011 02:00 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> http://linuxcnc.org/hardy/dists/hardy/base/backup/main.jpg >> > Ah, yes, that doesn't look real good! Have the holes been plugged? I hope so. Even though this guy may only be doing DDOS (that we know of), the next guy may do much worse. For instance, p

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 11:13:08 AM Andy Ibbotson did opine: > Hi > I have my BF30 up and running EMC2 but I'm having problems with EMC > noise. When I switch on the shop fluorescent lights they cause the > motors to "jump" anyone got any advice re. shielding. All signal cable > screens are

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Tom Easterday
Well, apparently the problem didn't get resolved with the jog velocity vs axis velocity thing…. Begin forwarded message: > From: Peter Jensen > Subject: Screenshots > Date: October 16, 2011 2:19:43 AM EDT > To: Tom Easterday > Reply-To: Peter Jensen > > > Ok, you know how I said I fixed the

Re: [Emc-users] config without encoders

2011-10-16 Thread Andy Pugh
On 15 Oct 2011, at 06:12, Tom Easterday wrote: > When we run above 2000ipm we have significant following error and the motor > overshoots it's mark by a decent amount (say, an inch or so) and then comes > back. I would be looking at the position loop in the drive for that problem. As far

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Andy Ibbotson
Hi Jan, Workshop is on a 20A spur, light come off the spur on a 5A spur. CNC system (controller and PC) are connected to a UPS with surge protection. I'll give your suggestions a try. Andy -- From: "Jan de Kruyf" Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 2

[Emc-users] RELEASED: Enhanced Machine Controller 2.4.7

2011-10-16 Thread Jeff Epler
Enhanced Machine Controller 2.4.7 has been released. Debian packages are availble from the regular package servers. A source tarball is available at http://linuxcnc.org/emc2/dists/lucid/emc2.4/source/emc2_2.4.7.tar.gz Due to a mistake during packaging, this version will still identify itself

Re: [Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Jan de Kruyf
Andy, It is a very difficult situation to judge from 6000km away. But my first sort of gutfeel would be to think that the noise enters the system trough the power connection. Have you got the drives' supply from the lighting circuit? (220V?) is it possible to move it with a long extention to a comp

[Emc-users] OT EMC on control signal

2011-10-16 Thread Andy Ibbotson
Hi I have my BF30 up and running EMC2 but I'm having problems with EMC noise. When I switch on the shop fluorescent lights they cause the motors to "jump" anyone got any advice re. shielding. All signal cable screens are grounded to the 7i43 (PC) ground. Link to Control box from PC is by a 1m

Re: [Emc-users] Need help with servo tuning

2011-10-16 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, October 16, 2011 07:35:11 AM Bruce Klawiter did opine: > >Yup, that is a concern. The fact that his Z axis appears to have > >abnormal transients even when disconnected from any command input at > >the >same time the X has similar transients seems to indicate a ground > >loop **IS** to