Re: [Emc-users] a physicist's approach to the pronunciation of "solder"

2012-01-04 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/4/2012 2:33 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: > Kent, > another physicist thinks that solder is derived from the french word > souder which, in turn, comes from latin "solidare" meaning "get solid, > solidify". So, the "l" must have been missing already somehow when taken > over from French in the first

Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Ben Jackson wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:11:58 -0800 > From: Ben Jackson > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX > > On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 10:19:25PM +, an

Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-04 Thread Ben Jackson
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 10:19:25PM +, andy pugh wrote: > I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards > (D510 and D525) > It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. With the Mesa board handling the low-level code is it possible to run th

Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-04 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/4/2012 5:19 PM, andy pugh wrote: > I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards > (D510 and D525) > It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCIx1-2U-32Bit-Riser-PCITX4-2-Rev-B-/110793930515 > > The previo

Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-04 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 04, 2012 08:41:42 PM andy pugh did opine: > On 4 January 2012 23:48, Eric Keller wrote: > > do you have any pictures of it set up? > > https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CQTCSBXP42w4qc8viPm_ztMTjNZETYmyPJ > y0liipFm0?feat=directlink > > (In that picture is the D510MO mo

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 04, 2012 08:28:20 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > This house, with a full basement, has I believe shifted upwards, > > floating if you will, at least 2" in the 22 years I've been here. > > Well, I guess we have been real lucky here. The shop is in my basem

Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 January 2012 23:48, Eric Keller wrote: > do you have any pictures of it set up? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CQTCSBXP42w4qc8viPm_ztMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink (In that picture is the D510MO motherboard, PicoPSU, DOM SATA drive, 12V CPU, Arduino, resolver board, Mesa 5i23,

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > > This house, with a full basement, has I believe shifted upwards, floating > if you will, at least 2" in the 22 years I've been here. Well, I guess we have been real lucky here. The shop is in my basement, totally uninsulated except by earth berm. I put exterior foam with

Re: [Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-04 Thread Eric Keller
do you have any pictures of it set up? On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM, andy pugh wrote: > I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards > (D510 and D525) > It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCIx1-2U-32

Re: [Emc-users] Following error only on jog

2012-01-04 Thread Tomaz T .
I solved those foloowing errors linear acis, but I still have it on angular. Shows up after homing in World mode, when jog with +/- button. Maybe weird thing is, if I jog it in positive direction it gives error in moment of release button, when I jog in negative, error shows up immediately. Did

[Emc-users] Riser for Intel Mini-ITX

2012-01-04 Thread andy pugh
I finally found a PCI riser that works with the mini-ITX Intel boards (D510 and D525) It puts the Mesa card over the motherboard, with the connectors facing up. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PCIx1-2U-32Bit-Riser-PCITX4-2-Rev-B-/110793930515 The previous 2 I tried stopped the machine booting, and the

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, January 04, 2012 02:45:54 PM Jon Elson did opine: > gene heskett wrote: > > Can some of that perceived resistance be credited to us linux folks > > generally being more likely to have a decent UPS that shields our > > boxes from a lot of that stuff? > > Nope, no UPSs here or at work

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt wrote: > > Jon, > > Linux/Unix used to have the same problems. Until they invented > journaling. That, in my book, has save a ton of disks for me here at > work with cleaning folks accidentally pulling power cords, unexpected > power outages over the weekend that fully drain the UPS

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: > Can some of that perceived resistance be credited to us linux folks > generally being more likely to have a decent UPS that shields our boxes > from a lot of that stuff? > > Nope, no UPSs here or at work. our network switches at work are on UPSs, and maybe the departmen

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Peter Blodow
I use an 8 GB SSD as a boot device in my ISDN monitor, an old, slowed down Pentium PC. The "disc" has been created once, and now it only gets written on when a telephone call occurs, maybe a couple of times a day. So I think, I have a "reliable" storage without moving parts, fans etc. at low p

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 1/4/2012 6:41 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > On 01/04/2012 06:33 AM, Les Newell wrote: >> That is a good article. I do most of that apart from changing the I/O >> scheduler. For reliability I leave journaling on. >> >> Les >> > Yep, but the journaling will eventually eat your disk up. It's a > trade-o

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 06:38 AM, Les Newell wrote: > Hi Mark, > > The SSD on the server is just handling emails and sending out licenses > purchased through my web site. I used an SSD to save power as the > server runs 24/7. The OS sits on a CF card. Bulk storage is a 1.5TB > mechanical drive that is sp

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Les Newell
Hi Mark, The SSD on the server is just handling emails and sending out licenses purchased through my web site. I used an SSD to save power as the server runs 24/7. The OS sits on a CF card. Bulk storage is a 1.5TB mechanical drive that is spun down when not in use. In it's current incarnation

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 06:33 AM, Les Newell wrote: > That is a good article. I do most of that apart from changing the I/O > scheduler. For reliability I leave journaling on. > > Les > Yep, but the journaling will eventually eat your disk up. It's a trade-off. Longevity of the device vs reliability

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Les Newell
That is a good article. I do most of that apart from changing the I/O scheduler. For reliability I leave journaling on. Les On 04/01/2012 10:54, Mark Wendt wrote: > If you plan on running pure SSD's on Ubuntu, this fella put up a very > good write up on extending the life of the SSD (limiting wr

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 06:13 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2012/1/4 Mark Wendt: > >> If you plan on running pure SSD's on Ubuntu, this fella put up a very >> good write up on extending the life of the SSD (limiting writes), and >> getting as much performance from them as you can: >> >>

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/4 Mark Wendt : > > If you plan on running pure SSD's on Ubuntu, this fella put up a very > good write up on extending the life of the SSD (limiting writes), and > getting as much performance from them as you can: > > I have been

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/04/2012 03:47 AM, Les Newell wrote: > Most of my failures were on Windows but they didn't seem to be related > to power fluctuations. The Samsung failed on my Linux server. I > reformatted one of the Kingston drives and stuck it in my Linux house > computer. It ran for a couple of weeks befo

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 11:48 PM, gene heskett wrote: > Can some of that perceived resistance be credited to us linux folks > generally being more likely to have a decent UPS that shields our boxes > from a lot of that stuff? > > Add that as a whole I think we pay more attention to surge arrestors and > grou

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 10:55 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> >> > Now, on Windows, I have no confidence whatsoever that "bad drives" are > actually bad > at the hardware level. I have had so many people say "oh, that power > surge blew out > my hard drive", when really what happened was the file system got >

Re: [Emc-users] Compile - install new kinematic

2012-01-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/4 Tomaz T. : > > Maybe I should also change lines 110, 115, 117 in my modified kinematics > file, to new name "my5axiskins"? > Of course! I also have had errors, because I did not change the name throughout the whole module code. Viesturs -

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 06:36 PM, Les Newell wrote: > I have had some bad experiences with SSDs. So far in about 18 months I > have killed three in my office computer and one in my network server. > Three were Kingston V series and one was a Samsung. I had the same > issues with all of them. Initially they w

Re: [Emc-users] Compile - install new kinematic

2012-01-04 Thread Tomaz T .
Maybe I should also change lines 110, 115, 117 in my modified kinematics file, to new name "my5axiskins"? > 107 int comp_id;> 108 int rtapi_app_main(void) {> 109 int result;> > 110 comp_id = hal_init("5axiskins");> 111 if(comp_id < 0) return > comp_id;> 112 > 113 haldata

Re: [Emc-users] Surface-Mount

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/03/2012 04:01 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: >>> >>> >> That's cuz you guys in the UK have an accent and talk funny... ;-) >> >> Solder, and pronounced "sodder." >> > Probably first heard of in the colonies from some village idiot with a > speech impediment who we gladly exported a

Re: [Emc-users] Compile - install new kinematic

2012-01-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 January 2012 09:03, Tomaz T. wrote: >> ERROR: Module hal_lib is in use by my5axiskins >> ERROR: Module rtapi is in use by hal_lib >> ERROR: Module rtai_math does not exist in /proc/modules >> ERROR: Module rtai_sem is in use by rtapi >> ERROR: Module rtai_fifos is in use by rtapi >> ERROR: M

Re: [Emc-users] Compile - install new kinematic

2012-01-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/4 Tomaz T. : > >> ERROR: Module 5axiskins does not exist in /proc/modules It seems to me that You should check, if "5axiskins" is used instead of "my5axiskins" somewhere in HAL files. Viesturs -- Ridiculously easy

[Emc-users] Compile - install new kinematic

2012-01-04 Thread Tomaz T .
Sorry, forgot to enter subject on previous one I'm trying to compile slightly modified kinematics file (5axiskins.c), but I get some warnings:So, I renamed file to my5axiskins.c and copy it into /usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/emc2# and run compile and install (sudo --comp install

Re: [Emc-users] hal taking machine down

2012-01-04 Thread Les Newell
Most of my failures were on Windows but they didn't seem to be related to power fluctuations. The Samsung failed on my Linux server. I reformatted one of the Kingston drives and stuck it in my Linux house computer. It ran for a couple of weeks before trashing the file system. I always get the

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2012-01-04 Thread Tomaz T .
HI all, I'm trying to compile slightly modified kinematics file (5axiskins.c), but I get some warnings: So, I renamed file to my5axiskins.c and copy it into /usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/emc2# and run compile and install (sudo --comp install ), but I recevie this message: root@cnc:/usr