Re: [Emc-users] Question about steels?

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 10 June 2012 19:52, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Imagine my surprise when that grade 8 bolt carved like butter, both with carbide inserts and with HSS tool steel, leaving a mirror-like finish. I was just sent this link, which is truly fascinating: http://youtu.be/mRuSYQ5Npek It

Re: [Emc-users] Parting out a huge CNC turret punch

2012-06-12 Thread charles green
extracting metallic elements from mineral ores is more energy intensive than extracting from existing metallic objects. this can be an important point to bring up for whoever is interested in reconditioning junk items, because cost of futile ass busting often exceeds cost of disposal, and the

Re: [Emc-users] Question about steels?

2012-06-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/6/12 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 10 June 2012 19:52, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Imagine my surprise when that grade 8 bolt carved like butter, both with carbide inserts and with HSS tool steel, leaving a mirror-like finish. I was just sent this link, which is truly

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 22:07 -0600, Jeshua Lacock wrote: it supports two extruders It has only one thermocouple input, so I'm not sure how you'd control the second extruder head temperature. Being an Arduino, it does have half a dozen analog inputs for thermistors. I don't know whether the stock

Re: [Emc-users] Question about steels?

2012-06-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/6/12 gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com: On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 06:36:40 AM andy pugh did opine: On 10 June 2012 19:52, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Imagine my surprise when that grade 8 bolt carved like butter, both with carbide inserts and with HSS tool steel, leaving a

Re: [Emc-users] Question about steels?

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 11:56, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Ti coating might have less friction, but all the cutting parameters - surface speed, depth, feed per revolution - also have big impact for particular material. I suspect that the youtube clip is actual-speed too, rather

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 12:42:01 Ed Nisley wrote: There's been some work on reading analog values from various microcontrollers into HAL through USB. That'd be the hard part of the job, Why not use a dmm with rs232 or usb? There are some available with a thermocouple input. Joachim

Re: [Emc-users] Question about steels?

2012-06-12 Thread John Thornton
I've never used 1144 thanks for the heads up on that. John On 6/11/2012 12:23 PM, Terry Christophersen wrote: 12L14 is better for finishes if the same part could be made with 1018 1144 (Stressproof) is even better for finishes and cuts like butter will crack when welded without preheating I

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Ed Nisley
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:22 +0200, Joachim Franek wrote: Why not use a dmm with rs232 or usb? A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of thermocouple and usb runs about $100 direct from China and *much* more than that from a reputable supplier. You'd need a pair for

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 12:55, Ed Nisley ed.08.nis...@pobox.com wrote: A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of thermocouple and usb runs about $100 direct from China and *much* more than that from a reputable supplier. A K-type thermocouple gives you 40uV/K For 150C

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 13:36, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: I found a 16-bit ADC with an 8x pre-amp I forgot to say, it's about $2. http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/adc/6696098/ You would need to do linearisation in HAL (trivial-ish) and be a bit cunning with the cold-junction compensation

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 14:36:52 andy pugh wrote: On 12 June 2012 12:55, Ed Nisley ed.08.nis...@pobox.com wrote: A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of thermocouple and usb runs about $100 direct from China and *much* more than that from a reputable

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 14:20, Joachim Franek joachim.fra...@pibf.de wrote: libmpsse Does that hook in to HAL in a convenient way? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- Live Security

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 13:55:13 Ed Nisley wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 13:22 +0200, Joachim Franek wrote: Why not use a dmm with rs232 or usb? A quick glance at the search results suggests that the combination of thermocouple and usb runs about $100 direct from China and *much* more

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 15:54:55 andy pugh wrote: On 12 June 2012 14:20, Joachim Franek joachim.fra...@pibf.de wrote: libmpsse Does that hook in to HAL in a convenient way? Today no. libmpsse makes tho usage of libusb easier for spi devices. I hope to have a normal programm to get the

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 June 2012 15:11, Joachim Franek joachim.fra...@pibf.de wrote: I want to look to the lcnc code for the userspace driver for hid devices. This works nice with spancenavd for the 3dspacenavigator. Have you tried using hal_input to read it? It might just work if the USB chip looks like a

Re: [Emc-users] 3D Printer Parts

2012-06-12 Thread Joachim Franek
On Tuesday 12 June 2012 16:18:18 andy pugh wrote: Have you tried using hal_input to read it? It might just work if the USB chip looks like a HID device at all. No, I do not have tried this because this is not a hid device. This is a usb to rs232 converter and detaching the ftdi_sio driver

[Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, What would it take to headless boot LinuxCNC in 3 seconds? thanks Stuart -- dos centavos -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe Threading

2012-06-12 Thread Brian May
Yes, I am supplying from an external source and have the jumper set so that the encoder is powered by the external source. I have to buy another encoder anyway for my live tooling - so I will get one and see if that fixes the problem... On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 6/12/2012 12:16 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, What would it take to headless boot LinuxCNC in 3 seconds? thanks Stuart This article is almost 4 years old but it's got some good hints about fast booting. http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ It points out a cool tool name BootChart

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread Joseph Chiu
Not LinuxCNC specific, and going from the top of my head (it's been a long time since I hacked away at Linux kernel) -- booting in 3 seconds is a bit tough to do, even with SSD -- but the key thing is to strip as many services and dynamically loaded device drivers. If you can get the kernel image

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread Joseph Chiu
Oh, and one more thing -- I believe there is a kernel argument that you can pass to have console logging turned off. That can improve load time as well. I'm not sure what your definition of headless is, so I'm not sure how much this plays into your situtation. On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:05 AM,

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread Eric H. Johnson
On 6/12/2012 12:16 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, What would it take to headless boot LinuxCNC in 3 seconds? thanks Stuart This article is almost 4 years old but it's got some good hints about fast booting. http://lwn.net/Articles/299483/ It points out a cool tool name

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread Joseph Chiu
BTW, why 3 seconds? It might help to know what you're trying to achieve - is it a device safety issue, or more of a usability thing? On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Eric H. Johnson ejohn...@camalytics.comwrote: On 6/12/2012 12:16 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, What would it

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread stevesng
Could you use Suspend/Resume instead? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzz1-FwIq28 Steve Stallings At Tue, 12 Jun 2012 09:16:28 -0700 (DST), you wrote Gentlemen, What would it take to headless boot LinuxCNC in 3 seconds? thanks Stuart -- dos centavos

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread sam sokolik
I liked whatever you got when my parents where up (the connies supreme or something..) does that mean we cannot get scheduled until the first week of july - or that he won't even be able to look at it until july? On 6/12/2012 12:59 PM, steve...@newsguy.com wrote: Could you use Suspend/Resume

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread sam sokolik
Sorry - disregard.. ;) (glad it wasn't too embarrassing) On 6/12/2012 1:39 PM, sam sokolik wrote: I liked whatever you got when my parents where up (the connies supreme or something..) does that mean we cannot get scheduled until the first week of july - or that he won't even be able to

[Emc-users] Another G33, G76 question

2012-06-12 Thread gene heskett
Greetings; Yesterday I did the threads, 1/4-28, .200 long in that nipple, this time making it out of an inch of 1/2 grade 8 bolt. That code has a relatively huge leadin, .4 before the thread starts, so that end of it was absolutely no problem. I raised the spindle speed from 200 to 250 revs

Re: [Emc-users] quick boot

2012-06-12 Thread Eric H. Johnson
One more: Use a fixed IP address to avoid negotiating DHCP. Regards, Eric I still don't know about getting down to 3 seconds, but in addition to what that article says, you can also try: 1 Set BIOS to quick boot, bypass POST, etc. 2 In BIOS set boot drive as first device in boot order. 3 Use

Re: [Emc-users] Another G33, G76 question

2012-06-12 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:53:51 -0400, you wrote: But when it was about 90% cut, I noticed that the last thread against the shoulder was obviously undersized because the actual retract motion wasn't being done as fast as the -e=.009 was giving it. Thinking on that, it made sense to reset that