Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 09.11.2012 um 01:14 schrieb andy pugh: On 6 November 2012 16:34, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: the notion of a 'table' might suggest that this is a tabular arrangement of data which code consults and gets a unique answer every time. This is not the case, and it has to do

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle RPM? How to display?

2012-11-09 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/08/2012 01:56 PM, Mark Brown wrote: Hi all, Is there something in the .ini file that will enable the spindle speed to display on EMC2 for my mill? Do you have an encoder on the spindle? If so, see http://pico-systems.com/codes/jebport/ files are spindle.hal and spindle.xml and yyou

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 06.11.2012 um 18:15 schrieb Michael Haberler: Am 06.11.2012 um 17:34 schrieb Michael Haberler: The mechanism I would choose for this API is to reuse the embedded Python code which is already in place, robust and quite simple to use. The API calls I listed above would just map to

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 November 2012 03:46, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't understand the need for the geometry offsets to have 10,00 added to them. I realize this is how Fanuc has it's tool table but there is no good reason (I can see) to follow that. It doesn't affect whether the

Re: [Emc-users] The Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 November 2012 08:10, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: what we need to break the NML size limit is the following change: I am still reading the code and trying to see at which point the tool table is passed in an NML message. (I am not well practiced at teasing apart code,

[Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Sven Wesley
Guys, I need a better pendant and there was a discussion about those fancy Chinese pendants a while ago but I can't find any successful end result. Did anyone make a pendant like similar: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Business-Office-Industrial-/12576/i.html?_from=R40_nkw=wireless+pendant or the El

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 November 2012 13:02, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Business-Office-Industrial-/12576/i.html?_from=R40_nkw=wireless+pendant If so, I'm the second to test it. :) I think you might actually be the first :-) Googling seems to suggest that it is a close

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Layne
That wireless MPG looks pretty good. I had seen similar devices before, but was always scared away by the fact that they seemed to be made exclusively for Mach 3, and there was no apparent LinuxCNC support. I know it's not what Sven was wanting, but I've been using the inexpensive, small and

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread Daniel Rogge
Andy, I can imagine that a format like T10.12 would work (tool 10, offset 12). What I think one really wants is to have code that will run on either a standard industrial control or LCNC. This means no . between geometry and offsets values. Others what are using this patch can chime in - I

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread jeremy youngs
The big difference between Fanuc-style and LinuxCNC style tool changes is not actually in the offsets anyway. That is that the T-word causes the toolchange, not the M6 command. the t word calls up the tool and the m6 begin s a tool change macro bringing z up releasing the tool sliding the

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
Not wireless, but check out Jog It! on kickstarter. A little over a week left. Jason (No other involvement other than as a backer) On Nov 9, 2012 7:05 AM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, I need a better pendant and there was a discussion about those fancy Chinese pendants a

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread Todd Zuercher
Not all Fanuc controled machines use the M6. It depends how the machine builder chose to have it set up. (We have 3 that don't use M6 and one that does) Also on our Fanucs at least, the offsets are not at all tied to the tool number. You call up your tool with the appropriate code then you

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread jeremy youngs
not seen one that didnt use m6 what does it use? the before mentioned macro or a subprogram? and yes as elated to and didnt respond to andys statement of when it tool changes it picks up the info for tools. no the fanuc does not read h offset until g43 then h # and it does not read d offset untill

Re: [Emc-users] Mach 4

2012-11-09 Thread jeremy youngs
cutter comp ymmv ? and a delay for mach 4 how do we unsubscribe to the mach invasion? or maybe this is spam? ahhh yes spam thats it :) -- jeremy youngs -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps

Re: [Emc-users] Mach 4

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
On Nov 8, 2012 2:07 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: Rigid Tapping *** *** requires appropriate hardware (e.g. a tapping head) I don't think we know what rigid tapping actually is sam Ya, I noticed that one too. Jason

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread Todd Zuercher
I've never delved to deeply into how these are setup and the subs that do it are hidden and protected. All you do to change tools is type T3 press start and the machine puts away the tool in the spindle (if there is one) then picks up tool #3. Two or our machines that do not use M6 are 0i and

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread jeremy youngs
thats neat , probably the subs just live in a parameter someplace, do you see cub scripting if you toolchange in mdi and monitor it? thta would show you the sub if it scripts -- jeremy youngs -- Everyone hates slow

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/11/9 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com Not wireless, but check out Jog It! on kickstarter. A little over a week left. Looks like a good idea. The eBay versions seems more rugged though. It actually started when I discussed with my vendor about my recent discussion (about performance)

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Bruce Layne
On 11/09/2012 02:59 PM, Sven Wesley wrote: Looks like a good idea. The eBay versions seems more rugged though. I had the opposite impression. I thought the Jog It looked a bit home made, but very rugged. In one of the videos, when the Jog It is placed onto a table, it made a substantial

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/11/9 Bruce Layne linux...@thinkingdevices.com On 11/09/2012 02:59 PM, Sven Wesley wrote: Looks like a good idea. The eBay versions seems more rugged though. I had the opposite impression. I thought the Jog It looked a bit home made, but very rugged. In one of the videos, when the

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/11/9 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com 2012/11/9 Bruce Layne linux...@thinkingdevices.com On 11/09/2012 02:59 PM, Sven Wesley wrote: Looks like a good idea. The eBay versions seems more rugged though. I had the opposite impression. I thought the Jog It looked a bit home made,

[Emc-users] ubject: Re: Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

2012-11-09 Thread kliegelmach...@gmail.com
On VMC's with a tool carrousel, usually the T call positions the carrousel to the correct tool number, then M6 executes the sub programs to position the Z axis, and the proper ladder sequence to operate the tool arm, retention stud, etc. I am not sure how or when the offsets are loaded into the

Re: [Emc-users] ubject: Re: Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

2012-11-09 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 04:05:36PM -0500, kliegelmach...@gmail.com wrote: On VMC's with a tool carrousel, usually the T call positions the carrousel to the correct tool number, then M6 executes the sub programs to position the Z axis, and the proper ladder sequence to operate the tool arm,

Re: [Emc-users] ubject: Re: Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

2012-11-09 Thread sam sokolik
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q6kvrSBSk On 11/9/2012 3:05 PM, kliegelmach...@gmail.com wrote: On VMC's with a tool carrousel, usually the T call positions the carrousel to the correct tool number, then M6 executes the sub programs to position the Z axis, and the proper ladder sequence to

Re: [Emc-users] Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table

2012-11-09 Thread Todd Zuercher
Nope ya can't see it its hidden. Set to view the code set on single block and the code stops on the T code and you have to press start a few times so you know it is exicuting lines of code but nothing more is shown on the screen. Once the tool change is done the program continus line by line.

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
On Nov 9, 2012 2:03 PM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/9 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com Not wireless, but check out Jog It! on kickstarter. A little over a week left. Looks like a good idea. The eBay versions seems more rugged though. It actually started when I

Re: [Emc-users] ubject: Re: Fanuc tool changes - was Ideal Tool Table To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

2012-11-09 Thread Daniel Rogge
I think there may be some confusion here. No one is saying that Tx causes or should cause tools to change on a milling machine. This is lathe behavior only. Rogge -Original Message- From: kliegelmach...@gmail.com [mailto:kliegelmach...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/11/9 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com As someone who designs automation cells and tooling for robots and machine tools easily big enough to kill you, wireless pendants would freak me out for safety reasons. I spec wireless sensors for tooling pretty regularly. That said, I only

[Emc-users] Floating plasma torch - asking to share experience

2012-11-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! Little too late but still - I suddenly realized that I need some provisions for something similar to floating head for plasma torch. I would like to ask plasma table owners to share their experience, how they have solved the following issue: Hypertherm (and most probably other

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Jason Burton
On Nov 9, 2012 4:23 PM, Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/9 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com As someone who designs automation cells and tooling for robots and machine tools easily big enough to kill you, wireless pendants would freak me out for safety reasons. I

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread doug metzler
I'm not worried about wireless though, truck cranes and construction cranes have been wireless for ages. /S Does anyone know what protocol the construction crane wireless devices use and if they use an off the shelf wireless module? Thanks, DougM On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Jason

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Sven Wesley
That's cool. I bet their wireless protocols are rigorously tested. Do they allow payload dropping for overhead loads via wireless? I'm not sure I understand the question, but if you mean lifting goods over objects or people that's happening all the time. First wireless controlled truck

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Sven Wesley
2012/11/10 Sven Wesley svenne.d...@gmail.com That's cool. I bet their wireless protocols are rigorously tested. Do they allow payload dropping for overhead loads via wireless? I'm not sure I understand the question, but if you mean lifting goods over objects or people that's happening all

Re: [Emc-users] Wireless pendant

2012-11-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 November 2012 18:45:02 Sven Wesley did opine: 2012/11/9 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com As someone who designs automation cells and tooling for robots and machine tools easily big enough to kill you, wireless pendants would freak me out for safety reasons. I spec

Re: [Emc-users] Floating plasma torch - asking to share experience

2012-11-09 Thread Tom Easterday
Perhaps a drawing or something? I am not following what you are proposing. Sounds like you are talking about having a set up where the z-axis ball nut (and hence the whole z-axis) is sloppy and can move 10-15mm up/down? While it might work (if that is what you are describing) then won't

Re: [Emc-users] Text on rounded button.

2012-11-09 Thread Erik Friesen
Back to the task at hand, I have downloaded and built the probekins source. Comp'ing probekins.c into 2.6.0 doesn't seem to work. So, if probekins loads properly, how do I know? Some things that are unclear to me. #1. Will a properly loaded mesh be depicted in the axis view, or will it

Re: [Emc-users] Plasma Cutting on a Mill.

2012-11-09 Thread Jeshua Lacock
On Nov 6, 2012, at 6:15 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 6 November 2012 13:06, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: Depending on the thickness you might not have enough speed to make a clean cut. It would cut at any speed but might be fugly. On my Hypertherm 1250 for example with the fine cut

Re: [Emc-users] Floating plasma torch - asking to share experience

2012-11-09 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I dont think your idea is a good practical idee for a production machine. The torch does touch off thousands of times and the loose nuts will wear out in no time. There is nothing wrong with a well designed floating head and in my opinion it is the best possible pactise to date. I do call out