Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 12/1/2014 10:33 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > RV Antifreeze must be somewhat different as I haven't seen it breakdown > at all. Even after years sitting in a coolant tank. Perhaps they > stabilize it somehow? > The stuff comes that flushes out of the RV water system (in my trailer) > just makes the w

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 12/1/2014 8:13 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > On 12/01/2014 11:55 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: >> But things got better after the FDA, and the FDA approved >> products were safe. Right? The list of unsafe drugs >> approved by the FDA would fill an encyclopedia. Here is >> but one gruesome example. >> http://e

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/02/2014 05:29 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Well, that is a matter of opinion, I guess. It is often easier to >> revert to old habits instead of learning new tricks. I know because I >> tend to do that too all too often (boy I feel old now ;-) >> > But I'd bet a bottle of your favorite suds you

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/2/2014 12:07 AM, Jack Coats wrote: > Yea, Propylene Glycol also is poisonous to dogs and cats (and probably > people if you drink it straight). It evidently tastes sweet, but more than > a tiny bit can be fatal. So keep your coolant tub covered and clean up > spills before your shop animal

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Jack Coats
Yea, Propylene Glycol also is poisonous to dogs and cats (and probably people if you drink it straight). It evidently tastes sweet, but more than a tiny bit can be fatal. So keep your coolant tub covered and clean up spills before your shop animal does it for you. Yes, it is a food additive, it

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 December 2014 11:41:10 Bertho Stultiens did opine And Gene did reply: > On 12/01/2014 12:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The updated documentation is online at: > > http://www.vagrearg.org/content/gcmc-into > > Should be: > http://www.vagrearg.org/content/g

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/1/2014 8:51 PM, Jack Coats wrote: > Propylene Glycol is anhydrous (naturally without water), absorbs water even > from the air. It holds more heat in a 50-50 mixture with water, but if you > are trying to keep all rust out, you want it in anhydrous (without water) > from. > -

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/1/2014 8:51 PM, Jack Coats wrote: > Propylene Glycol is anhydrous (naturally without water), absorbs water even > from the air. It holds more heat in a 50-50 mixture with water, but if you > are trying to keep all rust out, you want it in anhydrous (without water) > from. > -

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/01/2014 11:55 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: > But things got better after the FDA, and the FDA approved > products were safe. Right? The list of unsafe drugs > approved by the FDA would fill an encyclopedia. Here is > but one gruesome example. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Birth_def

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Jack Coats
Propylene Glycol is anhydrous (naturally without water), absorbs water even from the air. It holds more heat in a 50-50 mixture with water, but if you are trying to keep all rust out, you want it in anhydrous (without water) from. ---

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Cole
On 12/1/2014 3:12 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 December 2014 at 19:41, TJoseph Powderly wrote: >> and then there's always >> cow magnets > But I don't have a problem with cows in my coolant You say that now. but we've been warned. And remember Propylene Glycol ask for it by name, and o

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/01/2014 07:01 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 December 2014 at 16:58, Bertho Stultiens wrote: >> Well, yes, gcmc is a paradigm shift from plain gcode. That leap is >> easiest to see for those who have coded before in similar languages. > I am not suggesting that you (or anyone) should do this, b

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/01/2014 06:52 PM, Jon Elson wrote: >> All CNC machines use turtle graphics in 2D, 3D, 4D, etc. > No, turtle graphics is a scheme where the coordinate system is > centered on the turtle, and everything is relative to which way the > turtle is pointing now. So, if the turtle makes a 90 degree

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-12-01 Thread Stuart Stevenson
After this problem has some type of resolution you must remember If it has tits or wheels it will cost money and cause problems. :) On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Then let her have it. > > It won't do her any good and it won't sell for much, (especially if it > isn't wor

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/01/2014 06:25 PM, alex chiosso wrote: > This is an abstract of a post (that I opened a couple of months ago) on the > conditional-unconditional nc program flow control . >> USA brand CNC manufacturer (Delta Tau PMAC-NC Pro2 >> ) an

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 December 2014 at 19:41, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > and then there's always > cow magnets But I don't have a problem with cows in my coolant -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2014-12-01 21:41 GMT+02:00 TJoseph Powderly : > > and then there's always > cow magnets > http://www.westpointfarmvets.co.uk/cowmagnets/ > goto agri-store and buy a bag > put in take near outflow > clean 'em off once in a while > But that works only for ferrous-based materials - steel etc. Viestu

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 12/01/2014 12:34 PM, Eric Keller wrote: > our machine uses cloth filter bags on the return. McMaster sells them in > the U.S. Don't see the bowl we have on the McMaster site, I thought they > sold one like it. It's really a strainer basket > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:09 PM, andy pugh wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Eric Keller
our machine uses cloth filter bags on the return. McMaster sells them in the U.S. Don't see the bowl we have on the McMaster site, I thought they sold one like it. It's really a strainer basket On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 1:09 PM, andy pugh wrote: > It probably wouldn't be too hard to create somet

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread andy pugh
It probably wouldn't be too hard to create something like this: http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/coolant-filter-machine-tools-industrial-14589-3775093.jpg When the float floats, then the switch advances the mesh conveyor and moves a clean section of filter into place. On the ones I

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 December 2014 at 16:58, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > Well, yes, gcmc is a paradigm shift from plain gcode. That leap is > easiest to see for those who have coded before in similar languages. I am not suggesting that you (or anyone) should do this, but it would be a logical extension to eliminat

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Bruce Layne
On 12/01/2014 10:04 AM, andy pugh wrote: > Wikipedia led me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elixir_sulfanilamide > which is interesting, and does rather suggest that your FDA is necessary. The FDA now does little to ensure product safety, but they do add millions to the cost of drug developmen

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/01/2014 11:11 AM, Bertho Stultiens wrote: > All CNC machines use turtle graphics in 2D, 3D, 4D, etc. No, turtle graphics is a scheme where the coordinate system is centered on the turtle, and everything is relative to which way the turtle is pointing now. So, if the turtle makes a 90 degree

Re: [Emc-users] Tired of spending the entire day at the troubleshooting bench?

2014-12-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/01/2014 04:13 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjmjYVNuLEE > > Never seen this used on stuffed boards! It is pretty common for low-volume PC board fabs to use flying probe testers to check the bare boards for shorts and opens. Jon --

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Bertho . Thanks for the reply. This is an abstract of a post (that I opened a couple of months ago) on the conditional-unconditional nc program flow control . > USA brand CNC manufacturer (Delta Tau PMAC-NC Pro2 > ) and they use > GO

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/01/2014 09:08 AM, alex chiosso wrote: > I'm following you since the beginning on this list and I've to say > that your work is really nice and professionally made. I try to bo my best ;-) > I usually don't use cnc's for machining parts but to do material > handling or such so I need to mak

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/30/2014 11:08 PM, TZ(Paypal) wrote: > Have you considered doing a YouTube video that shows how gcmc is > used? If you include CNC and Gcode in the title, I think you will get > a lot of exposure. > For example, take a look at the following video. He already has 5600+ > views since Nov. 6th 20

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 12/01/2014 12:46 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > The updated documentation is online at: > http://www.vagrearg.org/content/gcmc-into Should be: http://www.vagrearg.org/content/gcmc-intro >>> Yes. is this very complete web page available in pdf for making dead >>> tree copies? I

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread dave
On 12/01/2014 06:21 AM, Todd Zuercher wrote: > Not the same chemical. He said propylene glycol, which is used for frost > proofing drinking water systems and is relatively innocuous. Diethylene and > ethylene glycol are poisonous. I do believe di-ethylene-glycol and ethylene glycol are the sa

Re: [Emc-users] gs2_vfd Hal component

2014-12-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/30/2014 11:15 PM, Mark Johnsen wrote: > Sebastian (and others) - thanks for the reply. I have a little voice in my > head since the Houston LinuxCNC Fest, "Update manuals where you can..." > :-) > > I'll make sure I get the cable pinout included in the manuals as I googled > a 9-pin dsub s

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread dave
On 12/01/2014 04:49 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 December 2014 at 02:05, Dave Cole wrote: >> it is >> safe to drink in small quantities (seriously). > Not _that_ safe: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_diethylene_glycol_wine_scandal > Case in point; in 1937 di-ethylene-glycol was used as a carri

Re: [Emc-users] Tired of spending the entire day at the troubleshooting bench?

2014-12-01 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 12/01/2014 04:51 AM, Mark Wendt wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 1 December 2014 at 11:41, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Damn that is neat. Now I have to spend all day interpreting an enormous data file of test results :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own

Re: [Emc-users] gs2_vfd Hal component

2014-12-01 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 12/1/14 12:15 AM, Mark Johnsen wrote: > Sebastian (and others) - thanks for the reply. I have a little voice in my > head since the Houston LinuxCNC Fest, "Update manuals where you can..." > :-) Yep :-) > I'll make sure I get the cable pinout included in the manuals as I googled > a 9-pin

Re: [Emc-users] Tired of spending the entire day at the troubleshooting bench?

2014-12-01 Thread Dave Caroline
And it still didnt work...usual error it was not plugged it! Dave On 01/12/2014, Mark Wendt wrote: > On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: > >> On 1 December 2014 at 11:41, Marius Liebenberg >> wrote: >> > Damn that is neat. >> >> Now I have to spend all day interpreting an enormous

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 December 2014 at 14:21, ToddZuercher wrote: > Not the same chemical. He said propylene glycol, which is used for frost > proofing drinking water systems and is relatively innocuous. Ah, yes, sorry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol#Safety_in_Humans It sounds safer than un

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-12-01 14:49, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 December 2014 at 02:05, Dave Cole wrote: >> it is >> safe to drink in small quantities (seriously). > Not _that_ safe: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_diethylene_glycol_wine_scandal > Ok so now I know why they say a good bottle of sweet wine will k

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread Todd Zuercher
Not the same chemical. He said propylene glycol, which is used for frost proofing drinking water systems and is relatively innocuous. Diethylene and ethylene glycol are poisonous. - Original Message - From: "andy pugh" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Monday, December 1,

Re: [Emc-users] EMC communication problem then motor start

2014-12-01 Thread Todd Zuercher
Then let her have it. It won't do her any good and it won't sell for much, (especially if it isn't working.) Then buy it back at what ever auction she has to unload it at, for a fraction of its worth to you. - Original Message - From: "Karlsson & Wang" To: "Enhanced Machine Control

Re: [Emc-users] Tired of spending the entire day at the troubleshooting bench?

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:47 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 1 December 2014 at 11:41, Marius Liebenberg > wrote: > > Damn that is neat. > > Now I have to spend all day interpreting an enormous data file of test > results :-) > > -- > atp > If you can't fix it, you don't own it. > http://www.ifixit.com

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 December 2014 at 02:05, Dave Cole wrote: > it is > safe to drink in small quantities (seriously). Not _that_ safe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_diethylene_glycol_wine_scandal -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto ---

Re: [Emc-users] Tired of spending the entire day at the troubleshooting bench?

2014-12-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 December 2014 at 11:41, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > Damn that is neat. Now I have to spend all day interpreting an enormous data file of test results :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto --

Re: [Emc-users] Coolant filtering

2014-12-01 Thread John Thornton
Mine only has a fine screen in the tray under the band saw. JT On 11/28/2014 7:28 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2014-11-28 14:55 GMT+02:00 John Thornton : >> On 11/28/2014 6:48 AM, andy pugh wrote: >>> http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machines-Accessories/Lathe-Accessories/Coolant-Accessorie

Re: [Emc-users] Tired of spending the entire day at the troubleshooting bench?

2014-12-01 Thread Marius Liebenberg
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[Emc-users] Tired of spending the entire day at the troubleshooting bench?

2014-12-01 Thread Mark Wendt
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Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.2

2014-12-01 Thread alex chiosso
Hi Bertho. I'm following you since the beginning on this list and I've to say that your work is really nice and professionally made . I usually don't use cnc's for machining parts but to do material handling or such so I need to make "jumps" within the G code (conditional or unconditional) but the