Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread John Dammeyer
Absolutely no idea. Just wanted to have a smile cross your face. I hope it did. John > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: October-13-21 10:35 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses >

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 14 October 2021 01:22:19 John Dammeyer wrote: > Gene, > You've been so helpful in the past I thought I'd pass the attached > round tuit on to you. John > Thanks John. Is that copyrighted? I've a bar of alu I've been threatening to make some coins like that from, but everything I have

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread John Dammeyer
Gene, You've been so helpful in the past I thought I'd pass the attached round tuit on to you. John > -Original Message- > From: Gene Heskett [mailto:ghesk...@shentel.net] > Sent: October-13-21 9:42 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 21:09:54 Chris Albertson wrote: > You are right, but under all conditions, the resistor connecting the > wire to ground through a diode has lower impedance than the same wire > terminated at a transistor gate as was the case before. The proof is > that it works now.

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
Differential drive is always the best solution, look at Ethernet. It can push 100 megabit over a kilometer using unshielded cable. But single ended signals can be noise resistant if the wire uses resistive termination. The opto-isolator is proving resistive termination. On Wed, Oct 13, 2021

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Chris, When I developed my ELS for 1PPR one of the criteria was that the index vane or slot had to be wide enough so that it would generate a pulse at least about 5 or so 50uS ticks wide and at least again that wide for the non index period. That the tick count would then be at least about

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
You are right, but under all conditions, the resistor connecting the wire to ground through a diode has lower impedance than the same wire terminated at a transistor gate as was the case before. The proof is that it works now. The other thing was thinking is that it should be simple to use

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread John Dammeyer
To fair we need to use the word low resistance path to ground. The impedance of the wiring at 300kHz where electrical noise might exist from a VFD may be considerably higher. Think of the basic electronics of an inductor and capacitor in parallel. At DC the resistance and impedance is the

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
Then this proves the cause. The isolators provide a low impedance path to ground. It is just current-limiting resistor and a forward-biased diode. With this low impedance to ground there is no way for EMI to cause the voltage on the wire to raise. On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 1:40 PM Peter Hodgson

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread John Dammeyer
Great! > -Original Message- > From: Peter Hodgson [mailto:peterjohnhodg...@gmail.com] > Sent: October-13-21 1:38 PM > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > Subject: [Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses > > > Well! > > A quick update for those that are interested. >

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
Thank you John, that looks like a really useful document. Pete > On 13 Oct 2021, at 16:49, John Figie wrote: > >  > > John Figie > > >> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 10:15 AM Peter Hodgson >> wrote: >> >> On 13/10/2021 15:43, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > On Wednesday 13 October 2021 06:06:06

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Ralph Stirling
I wish that the polyjet resin printer technology would reach the consumer market. We were given a Stratasys Eden 500V polyjet printer last year (originally a $200K machine), and it lays down 16 micron thick layers with 42 micron horizontal resolution. Parts are solid. Build envelope is huge

[Emc-users] Fwd: Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
Well! A quick update for those that are interested. The HPCL2631's won the postal race and arrived in the mail today. I made up a little 'interface' board to mount them on with the pull ups, caps, etc. and fitted that board this evenening. After an initial check on the index

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Greg Bernard
Oops, forgot the link! Here's a good rundown of super glue workholding: https://youtu.be/r6DCvtcU8_M On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 1:15 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Dave, > The question was more about how to hold something like this to make it > from scratch and there have been some great

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Greg Bernard
Here's a good rundown of super glue workholding. On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 1:15 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > Hi Dave, > The question was more about how to hold something like this to make it > from scratch and there have been some great suggestions. Your method to > repair would also work. At the

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes, experimental setup does require some skill. Sometimes you even have to build a test connection to the scope with a connector on it. Then on the scope there are setting for "DO coupled" or "AC coupled and for placing in low pass filters and trigger level and on the digital scope even more

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread John Dammeyer
I'll agree with Andy here. I have a dual trace older digital scope and a 4 trace digital that can even decode CAN, SPI and I2C messaging. I bought a small Digilant PC development kit version for $400 or so to get UART decoding for a PAN-TILT system that was misbehaving. The add on module for

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Dave, The question was more about how to hold something like this to make it from scratch and there have been some great suggestions. Your method to repair would also work. At the moment, when I do use the tripod I can loosen the clamp screw, and push/pull on the rack to change the

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Bruce Layne
On 10/13/21 12:03 PM, Martin Dobbins wrote: Bruce Layne wrote: Someone needs to make an upgraded MSLA printer that automates the post processing operations. I'll pull the trigger when they do, Bruce. I think of the current state of resin 3D printing as similar to the early days of

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
Machine chassis frames are "earthed" as a safety precaution and you never want to disable is. The idea is that if there is some kind of failure a 220 volt AC mains "hot" wire might contact the frame and make the entire machine "hot". But if the frame is Earthed is will still be safe and the

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 12:49, Peter Hodgson wrote: > > They look nice. Which one do you usualy turn to? The Tek is on the shelf above my workbench, plugged in and with the probes hooked up, so that one. > https://banggood.app.link/a2038i0Ujkb Or this, on next-day with no worries about import

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Martin Dobbins
Bruce Layne wrote: Someone needs to make an upgraded MSLA printer that automates the post processing operations. I'll pull the trigger when they do, Bruce. Do you have an MSLA right now? What model? Martin ___

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Martin Dobbins
Gene Heskett wrote: > > Unforch, John, not even my latest copy of freecad can open that > > file. >FreeCAD_0.19-23578-Linux-Conda_glibc2.12-x86_64.AppImage, here on stretch > with 32gigs of dram, goes into a cancelable busy loop loading it FWIW, Gene I'm using

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Todd Zuercher
I think I'd try to replicate the arm with a piece of sheet steel folded and bent appropriately. Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street  Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Bruce Layne Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 11:01 AM To:

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Chris Albertson
If you can afford it, a part like this can be 3D printed in stainless steel. I think SpaceX 3D prints the injectors used on their Raptor rocket engines in some exotic material like Inconel. Printer that can do that are expensive but you can use a service. But I think the point of this handle

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Bruce Layne
On 10/13/21 12:02 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: Chrome plated pot metal and if that can crack and break a 3D printed handle would definitely. An FDM 3D printed crank arm would almost certainly break, regardless of the material used. An MSLA (resin) 3D printed crank arm almost certainly would

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
On 13/10/2021 15:43, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 13 October 2021 06:06:06 Peter Hodgson wrote: I just tested the VFD shield and supply line shield and both are open circuit when not connected to the start bolt. There are three AC motors: Spindle, Oil Lubrication and Coolant Pump that

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 06:21:46 andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 11:13, Peter Hodgson wrote: > > I'm watching a couple of Oscilloscopes on eBay so might take the > > plunge. > > I am going to go against the consensus and suggest that if you don't > already have an oscilloscope,

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread dave engvall
Being lazy and cheap I would clamp the piece broken handle side up to a plate using a pin thru the hole as a second reference for holding, If necessary use a screw thru the hole depending on  size. Now that you have it affixed, probe profile and convert to dwg/cad. Machine off the casting on

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 06:09:42 Peter Hodgson wrote: > Thanks Chris, > > I'm watching a couple of Oscilloscopes on eBay so might take the > plunge. > > Not sure when I would use it after this episode although I am learning > a lot from you guys and enjoying the new knowledge so it might may

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 06:06:06 Peter Hodgson wrote: > I just tested the VFD shield and supply line shield and both are open > circuit when not connected to the start bolt. > > There are three AC motors: Spindle, Oil Lubrication and Coolant Pump > that are all grounded to the machine frame

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 05:50:52 Dr. Andreas O. Lindner wrote: > Opens OK in Freecad 0.19 on my MAC. I don't have any mac's, I don't want to test my fire insurance. I am the long since retired CE at a tv station, a chair I held for 18+ years at the end of the last century. They bought a

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 05:43:23 marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote: > On 2021-10-13 09:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Unforch, John, not even my latest copy of freecad can open that > > file. > > It opens OK in the free version of Fusion 360. > But the free has been gone for over a

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Les Newell
That looks like a lot of scope for the money. Having used both CRT and digital, in my opinion digital is definitely the way to go. I gave away my last CRT scope about 6 years ago. Les On 13/10/2021 12:49, Peter Hodgson wrote: They look nice. Which one do you usualy turn to? I've been shying

Re: [Emc-users] armbian buster glade-3 python-gtksourceview2 worth pursuing?

2021-10-13 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 12:59, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > I got quite lost and was never able to add the keys. You can just grab the .deb file by hand, then install it with gdebi, dpkg or (my normal way) with apt-get. sudo apt-get ./name-of-deb-file The ./ is a clue to apt that it should look

Re: [Emc-users] armbian buster glade-3 python-gtksourceview2 worth pursuing?

2021-10-13 Thread Thomas J Powderly
Thx very much Andy, I read that I could add the linuxcnc repo, but that was another rabbithole with 'no inrelease' and JT's comments on the real repo was 'linuxcnc.org/dists'   , I got quite lost and was never able to add the keys. (btw the rtpreempt _was_ lost, but MXMaster's install.sh

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 7:41 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 11:35, Peter Hodgson > wrote: > > > > Thanks Andy, that's good info and will temper my expectations. > > > > I'll see what comes along. > > FWIW I have two, a rather cute little Tektronix (with character > generation on

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
They look nice. Which one do you usualy turn to? I've been shying away from the CRT scopes as I've seen many on eBay for sapres or repair and for a few extra ££'s the one on this link seems to cover all the bases and I can also claim the VAT back so would only cost me £125 !! :

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 11:35, Peter Hodgson wrote: > > Thanks Andy, that's good info and will temper my expectations. > > I'll see what comes along. FWIW I have two, a rather cute little Tektronix (with character generation on the CRT) dating from the 1980s: https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/336 And

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
Thanks Andy, that's good info and will temper my expectations. I'll see what comes along. My thought is that it may help me understand general electronics a bit more and I can always put back on eBay if I don't find it useful. Pete On 13/10/2021 11:21, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2021

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 11:13, Peter Hodgson wrote: > I'm watching a couple of Oscilloscopes on eBay so might take the plunge. I am going to go against the consensus and suggest that if you don't already have an oscilloscope, and don't know how to use one, then you might not find it much help.

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
Thanks Chris, I'm watching a couple of Oscilloscopes on eBay so might take the plunge. Not sure when I would use it after this episode although I am learning a lot from you guys and enjoying the new knowledge so it might may find other uses. Pete On 12/10/2021 03:13, Chris Albertson

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
I just tested the VFD shield and supply line shield and both are open circuit when not connected to the start bolt. There are three AC motors: Spindle, Oil Lubrication and Coolant Pump that are all grounded to the machine frame via their mountings but I have also ran individual earth cables

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Dr. Andreas O. Lindner
Opens OK in Freecad 0.19 on my MAC. Dr. Andreas O. Lindner Lindner TAC Auhofstraße 11 B / 11 1130 Wien Austria Fax: +43 1 877 68 73 Mobil: +43 664 41 24 742 Email: a.lind...@lindner-tac.at Web: http://www.lindner-tac.at > Am 13.10.2021 um 10:31 schrieb Gene Heskett : > > On Wednesday 13

Re: [Emc-users] Fwd: Rogue Index Pulses

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Hodgson
Thanks Andy, I have a Schaffner FN2030-10-06 input filter on the VFD supply. It became apparent  I needed that when I was trying to run Ethernet over the workshop power lines and it dropped out everytime I ran the spindle! Pete On 11/10/2021 23:51, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 at

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread marcus . bowman
On 2021-10-13 09:31, Gene Heskett wrote: > Unforch, John, not even my latest copy of freecad can open that file. > It opens OK in the free version of Fusion 360. Marcus ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 00:47:45 John Dammeyer wrote: > Here we go. > How to hold and mill this? > John > > > -Original Message- > > From: John Dammeyer [mailto:jo...@autoartisans.com] > > Sent: October-12-21 9:02 PM > > To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' > > Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 13 October 2021 00:02:12 John Dammeyer wrote: > > > Maybe a stub on the end held in a 4th axis? > > > > > > Any suggestions are welcome. > > > John > > > > What is it cranking? Maybe I could 3d print it. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > > Chrome plated pot metal and if that can crack

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Super glue and tape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-coDYZCmEw On Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 11:33:19 PM MDT, John Dammeyer wrote: Thanks Chris. I haven't needed the handle all that badly or I would have done something.  What I also just noticed is the plastic handle is held with

Re: [Emc-users] armbian buster glade-3 python-gtksourceview2 worth pursuing?

2021-10-13 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 06:06, Thomas J Powderly wrote: > import gtksourceview2 as gtksourceview > > No module named gtksourceview2 For x86 and armhf we have back-ported Gtksourcevew: http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/base/binary-armhf/ (python-htksourceview) Which linuxcnc repository is

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 04:36, John Dammeyer wrote: > I can't figure out how I'd hold the raw stock to machine it. I would think in terms of machining one face, then making a pocket in some other stock, hot-glueing the handle in the pocket (machined face down) and then finishing. I did that

Re: [Emc-users] Replacing a handle.

2021-10-13 Thread marcus . bowman
On 2021-10-13 06:31, John Dammeyer wrote: Thanks Chris. I haven't needed the handle all that badly or I would have done something. What I also just noticed is the plastic handle is held with a rivet into the top of a larger extension. New drawing attached. Isn't there also a raised ring on