Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-29 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-11-29 05:50, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 16:31:58 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply: On 2014-11-28 18:27, Andy Pugh wrote: On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:09, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Sounds like a faulty design to me. Without a doubt,

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-29 Thread Robert Malterer
- From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems Hi Robert Thanks for the grease tip. I would have fitted normal wheel bearing grease. I will see if I can find

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 November 2014 03:15:46 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply: On 2014-11-29 05:50, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 16:31:58 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply: On 2014-11-28 18:27, Andy Pugh wrote: On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:09, Kirk

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
seals create a lot of heat On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Saturday 29 November 2014 03:15:46 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply: On 2014-11-29 05:50, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 28 November 2014 16:31:58 Marius Liebenberg did opine

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 November 2014 14:23:01 Stuart Stevenson did opine And Gene did reply: seals create a lot of heat That is a problem I have never had unless the seal was bone dry, in which case it will quickly self-destruct anyway. Wet seals that are properly sized don't get hot. Nor do they wear

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-29 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/29/2014 04:01 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 29 November 2014 14:23:01 Stuart Stevenson did opine And Gene did reply: seals create a lot of heat That is a problem I have never had unless the seal was bone dry, in which case it will quickly self-destruct anyway. Wet seals that are

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Robert Malterer
Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems A puller like that would be nice to have but I am afraid that there is no gap or any protrusion of the bearing race to grip

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Marius Liebenberg
: Thursday, November 27, 2014 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems A puller like that would be nice to have but I am afraid that there is no gap or any protrusion of the bearing race to grip on. On 2014-11-27 22:49, Marcus Bowman wrote: On 27 Nov 2014, at 20:21

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/28/2014 03:38 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Hi Robert Thanks for the grease tip. I would have fitted normal wheel bearing grease. I will see if I can find what you suggested over here or at least something similar. In my opinion, grease should not be a first choice. Oil can lubricate

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 November 2014 at 15:50, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: In my opinion, grease should not be a first choice. Oil can lubricate just as well or better, and carries away heat and dirt Oil will fall out. These bearings are mounted in the faces of an open-fronted box, and there

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/28/2014 07:59 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 28 November 2014 at 15:50, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: In my opinion, grease should not be a first choice. Oil can lubricate just as well or better, and carries away heat and dirt Oil will fall out. These bearings are mounted

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Andy Pugh
On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:09, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Sounds like a faulty design to me. Without a doubt, which is why the bearings failed. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-11-28 18:27, Andy Pugh wrote: On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:09, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Sounds like a faulty design to me. Without a doubt, which is why the bearings failed. And the fact that there was absolutely no form of lubrication on them to start with and the

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Stuart Stevenson
The bearings should have about a 20% fill. Don't fill the bearings full. On Nov 28, 2014 3:34 PM, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: On 2014-11-28 18:27, Andy Pugh wrote: On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:09, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Sounds like a faulty

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 28 November 2014 16:31:58 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply: On 2014-11-28 18:27, Andy Pugh wrote: On 28 Nov 2014, at 16:09, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: Sounds like a faulty design to me. Without a doubt, which is why the bearings failed.

[Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi All I finely got my lathe working and by the third part the spindle bearings start to seize. Its a brand new BVC25A belt driven lathe. I managed to pack some grease in the back bearing when I first started with the build but there is no way to get to the front bearing. Does anyone know how

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 November 2014 at 16:13, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: BVC25A That looks like a very close relative of mine. On mine there were oilers on top of the head casting. Once I removed the oilers and drilled the holes deep enough to reach the bearings I had a way to inject

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
So a little bigger tap with a little bigger mallet did the job. The front bearing fell apart and is badly worn. Now the seat is stuck inside the headstock and the bearing piece is stuck to the shaft and I have no idea how to get it out. Anyone know how to get a stuck bearing seat out please? On

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Dave Caroline
Where there is no provision for pressing out I use a dremel and grind a slot to weaken inner or outer, needs care and a steady hand but has got me out of trouble a few times. Sharp tap with a chisel/punch to break it once weakened. Dave Caroline On 27/11/2014, Marius Liebenberg

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Pete Matos
Never heard of that lathe. Does it have an oil bath in the headstock like a lot of lathes? Good luck man Peace Pete On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: Hi All I finely got my lathe working and by the third part the spindle bearings start to

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Pete Matos
Also when I have a really bad stuck bearing race I usually run a tig weld around the OD of it and that usually frees it up and often cracks it enough to just hit it with a chisel and mallet and it falls off. I am sure you probably don't have a tig welder but if you cannot get it off you might

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Ed
On 11/27/2014 10:52 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: So a little bigger tap with a little bigger mallet did the job. The front bearing fell apart and is badly worn. Now the seat is stuck inside the headstock To take out a bearing cup I use an arc welder and run a bead of weld around the inside of

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 11/27/2014 09:18 AM, Pete Matos wrote: Never heard of that lathe. Does it have an oil bath in the headstock like a lot of lathes? Good luck man Peace Pete I found on my lathe that the back gear is used as an oil slinger. The problem is that I don't use the back gear much, so the gearbox

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Mine was also taper roller bearings. The front one was very badly worn. You should have earned me before but once this is sorted out it should be OK I hope. On 2014-11-27 18:24, andy pugh wrote: On 27 November 2014 at 16:13, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: BVC25A That looks

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I will do the weld bead tomorrow and hopefully it will come out without too much trouble. On 2014-11-27 19:30, Ed wrote: On 11/27/2014 10:52 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: So a little bigger tap with a little bigger mallet did the job. The front bearing fell apart and is badly worn. Now the

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-11-27 18:24, andy pugh wrote: On 27 November 2014 at 16:13, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: BVC25A That looks like a very close relative of mine. On mine there were oilers on top of the head casting. Once I removed the oilers and drilled the holes deep enough to

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 27 Nov 2014, at 20:21, Marius Liebenberg wrote: I will do the weld bead tomorrow and hopefully it will come out without too much trouble. It's a counsel of perfection, I guess, at this stage, but I would use a puller fitted with very thin lips at right angles to the legs. These are

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 November 2014 at 20:49, Marcus Bowman marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote: At this stage, unless you know someone with a puller like this, welding is probably your only other option. Just make one on the Oh Never mind. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Marius Liebenberg
A puller like that would be nice to have but I am afraid that there is no gap or any protrusion of the bearing race to grip on. On 2014-11-27 22:49, Marcus Bowman wrote: On 27 Nov 2014, at 20:21, Marius Liebenberg wrote: I will do the weld bead tomorrow and hopefully it will come out without

Re: [Emc-users] Lathe spindle bearing problems

2014-11-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 28 November 2014 00:13:25 Marius Liebenberg did opine And Gene did reply: A puller like that would be nice to have but I am afraid that there is no gap or any protrusion of the bearing race to grip on. Whats chances you could drill into it at 180 degree opposing locations, switching