Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 November 2013 01:11, tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table I actually rather like this arrangement, and have used it in two places on my mill. Z:

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-07 Thread John Thornton
Why would you need to shield the belts? I've run my plasma with the belts hanging out in the breeze for years... I agree a shaft connecting both sides of the gantry is the best way to go. I did find a thin wall tube to connect the sides worked much better than a shaft. JT On 11/6/2013 7:27

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-07 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I have such a setup where I turn the nut. It works very well. On 2013/11/07 03:11 AM, tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table Terry On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:24 PM, John Thornton

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-07 Thread Dave Cole
Probably another issue with turning the nut is how can you automatically lube the nut?My Bridgeport has a central lube system with tubes running all over and an auto oiler. The tubes run right to the ball screw nuts... Just a thought... Dave On 11/7/2013 9:34 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 07 November 2013 11:04:12 andy pugh did opine: On 7 November 2013 01:11, tcninj...@yahoo.com wrote: why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table I actually rather like this arrangement, and have used

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 November 2013 14:50, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: Probably another issue with turning the nut is how can you automatically lube the nut? If you look at my X-nut, there is a small threaded hole in the casting below the screw. This goes to a drilling that emerges between the two

[Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Marshland Engineering
I'm looking to make a new CNC table for both Plasma and possibly Plastic and Aluminum cutting. It will be about 1.8m x 1.2m. I was wondering if anyone has a similar configuration that is run with toothed belts instead of ballscrews? Obvously a lot cheaper option, however, I was wondering on the

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
A lot of that depends on your belt arrangement. They make linear motion belting with a unique tooth profile. They use steel cords in polyurethane belts to minimize stretch and they can obtain zero backlash with that setup. To get more rigidity you can go with a wider belt but then the

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 19:47, Marshland Engineering marshl...@marshland.co.nz wrote: I was wondering if anyone has a similar configuration that is run with toothed belts instead of ballscrews? Have a look at the Bell-Everman Servobelt arrangement. That minimises the amount of belt that has the

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
That is a sweet setup you have Andy...That hob does not look cheap.. The problem with the Bell Everman drive setup is that by the time you cut the belt engagement grooves in the mating surface you have basically created a rack that is engaged with a belt rather than a pinion and to me that

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 22:14, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: That is a sweet setup you have Andy...That hob does not look cheap.. eBay, £35. The problem with the Bell Everman drive setup is that by the time you cut the belt engagement grooves in the mating surface ... I saw

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread John Thornton
I have a belt driven plasma table that I've been using for years, in fact it was my first EMC machine that I built. The biggest problem with my design is the linear bearings that I used, they just slide over the extruded aluminum. I would go with bigger belts next time or invest in the dual

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:43:17 -0500, you wrote: A lot of that depends on your belt arrangement. They make linear motion belting with a unique tooth profile. They use steel cords in polyurethane belts to minimize stretch and they can obtain zero backlash with that setup. To get more

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread tcninja12
why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table Terry On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:24 PM, John Thornton bjt...@gmail.com wrote: I have a belt driven plasma table that I've been using for years, in fact it was my first EMC

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 11/6/2013 12:47 PM, Marshland Engineering wrote: I'm looking to make a new CNC table for both Plasma and possibly Plastic and Aluminum cutting. It will be about 1.8m x 1.2m. I was wondering if anyone has a similar configuration that is run with toothed belts instead of ballscrews? Obvously

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 23:00:33 tcninj...@yahoo.com did opine: why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table Terry When I did the 2nd attempt to make a Z drive for my mill, that is what I did. Now that I

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
Gotta love ebay.. :-) On 11/6/2013 5:21 PM, andy pugh wrote: On 6 November 2013 22:14, Dave Cole linuxcncro...@gmail.com wrote: That is a sweet setup you have Andy...That hob does not look cheap.. eBay, £35. The problem with the Bell Everman drive setup is that by the time you cut the

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
That gets rid of the whip/critical speed problem but doesn't solve the cost issue. In general, driving the nut is much more difficult than driving the screw. I have a Bridgeport Series 2 Boss and the X screw is driven via the end of the screw off the left end. Dave On 11/6/2013 8:11 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/11/7 tcninj...@yahoo.com why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table Oh, there have been attempts to do that. I know that Andy has something like that and I myself also built a machine with fixed ballscrew and