Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/08/2014 03:45 PM, Greg Bernard wrote: > Not following your description, Jon. Do you have a pic of what you did with > the PC board? > I really ought to do this, but haven't made pictures so far. I take a 22" long, 2" wide piece of double sided PC board material. The dimensions are partly

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread Jack Coats
The only thing that makes changing technologies (or bulbs) economic is if there is a real gain. If you are hitting a burned out bulb, and you WANT to change, AND you don't have any more of the old bulbs in the cupboard, then changing tech seems reasonable. Just because CFL is more efficient, but

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread John Kasunich
Going even more off topic - these aren't particularly useful shop lights, but they are blindingly bright and incredibly cheap. 100 Watts, 9000 lumens. They need heat sinking (I've used CPU fan/sink combos). http://www.ebay.com/itm/380515680644 On Sat, Nov 8, 2014, at 05:06 PM, Tom Easterday w

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread Tom Easterday
Since this thread is heading down the path of DIY, and since I just ordered some more of these for a lamp I am upgrading, I thought I would mention this very useful LED module from Seoul Semiconductor which is powered directly off 120/220V mains. All that is required is a heat sink to mount it

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread Greg Bernard
omist."         -Kenneth Boulding, economist “How unfortunate that the Earth’s first intelligent social animal is a tribal carnivore”     -E.O. Wilson, sociobiologist From: Jon Elson To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Off T

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread Jon Elson
On 11/08/2014 11:29 AM, Dave Cole wrote: >>> I wonder how long it takes to pay back the $75 > difference at 9 watts? > > 9 watts x 2000 hrs per year = 18KWHR/yr @ $0.10 per KWHR that would > be $1.80 per year so a payback of $75/$1.8 = $41.6 years > > I made up my own LED retrofits, because I

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread Dave Cole
>>I wonder how long it takes to pay back the $75 difference at 9 watts? 9 watts x 2000 hrs per year = 18KWHR/yr @ $0.10 per KWHR that would be $1.80 per year so a payback of $75/$1.8 = $41.6 years So payback will occur during my next life. ;-) This the same reason why buying 50 year life s

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread John Thornton
I find it hard to beat T8 fluorescent bulbs at $2.50 each by the 10 pack with brighter color of 6500K and the same lumens of 2300... the only savings is 9 watts. I wonder how long it takes to pay back the $75 difference at 9 watts? JT On 11/8/2014 6:30 AM, Ron Ginger wrote: > On 11/8/2014 12:0

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-08 Thread Ron Ginger
On 11/8/2014 12:05 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > On 7 November 2014 23:10, Kirk Wallace wrote: >> >This looks interesting, but I have no idea how well these dimmable T8 >> >LEDs work. >> >http://www.ebay.com/itm/121227773225 I just bought 2 of these to try. I like the light

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 November 2014 23:10, Kirk Wallace wrote: > This looks interesting, but I have no idea how well these dimmable T8 > LEDs work. > http://www.ebay.com/itm/121227773225 These make good machine lights: http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00169635/ (they come with a 4V supply but don't mind

[Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
This looks interesting, but I have no idea how well these dimmable T8 LEDs work. http://www.ebay.com/itm/121227773225 another option is to use a bunch of E26 screw base bulbs which are getting fairly cheap these days. -- Kirk Wallace http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/ http://www.walla

Re: [Emc-users] Off Topic: Shop Lighting

2014-11-07 Thread Lee Lancaster
They work pretty good but you have to watch out for the power supplies. I make light fixture housings for a company that uses those LED "fluorescent" bulbs. They have had quite a few fail because of bad caps in the power supplies. Other than that they are great. On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 6:10 PM,