Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Blodow
andy pugh schrieb: Have you considered using a 1:1 transformer? Yes, but I can't find one. (or not one rated at 15A / 240V anyway) Andy, I have one here that will deliver this power easily. It used to power a hospital supply where all electrical gear must be floating. The only

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 September 2011 07:53, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: Yes, but I can't find one. (or not one rated at 15A / 240V anyway) Andy, I have one here that will deliver this power easily. It used to power a hospital supply where all electrical gear must be floating. The only problem would

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 23:30:11 +0100, you wrote: On 6 September 2011 23:14, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: I've regularly seen much higher than a few volts. I think it depends a lot on location and local wiring condition/type and ground conditions. I am not sure I want to think to

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread Steve Stallings
[mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 4:35 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU On 7 September 2011 07:53, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: Yes, but I can't find one. (or not one rated at 15A / 240V anyway) Andy, I have one

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread gene heskett
On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 08:35:06 AM Steve Blackmore did opine: On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 23:30:11 +0100, you wrote: On 6 September 2011 23:14, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: I've regularly seen much higher than a few volts. I think it depends a lot on location and local wiring

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Blodow
(EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU On 7 September 2011 07:53, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: Yes, but I can't find one. (or not one rated at 15A / 240V anyway) Andy, I have one here that will deliver this power easily. It used to power a hospital supply where all

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 September 2011 13:57, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: In the UK, they have generally a nominal 240 volts mains supply (don't know about the tolerances). We basically have the same nominal as the rest of the EU, but with the tolerances switched, so that we could be common with the

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-07 Thread Dave
On 9/7/2011 5:34 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 7 September 2011 07:53, Peter Blodowp.blo...@dreki.de wrote: Yes, but I can't find one. (or not one rated at 15A / 240V anyway) Andy, I have one here that will deliver this power easily. It used to power a hospital supply where all

[Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread andy pugh
I have made a servo PSU. It simply rectifies mains voltage to give me 325V DC. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HdNJXBD5wPqDUi9E8C46HQ?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dTcU2i7GYh53xSrqjh--BQ?feat=directlink There is a bit of extra componentry in the box to discharge the

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, andy pugh wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:34:24 +0100 From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Don Stanley
Hi Andy; Some years ago the US code requires earth ground and common line to be isolated. This prevents voltage drop in the common line jacking up voltage on the equipment. The transformer will isolate the common return for you so your equipment will stay at earth ground and you won't glow in the

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Andy Pugh
On 6 Sep 2011, at 15:21, Don Stanley dstanley1...@gmail.com wrote: The transformer will isolate the common return for you so your equipment will stay at earth ground and you won't glow in the dark when you touch it. Which transformer? Does the Drive care that the DC is not referenced to

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Andy Pugh wrote: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:47:01 +0100 From: Andy Pugh bodge...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Servo

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Blodow
Andy, looks like a neatly made power box. Rectifying AC line power without potential insulation, however, is unusual and bears some risks. - Be aware that both of your DC lines will have potential to ground, none can be grounded. - Be sure that every metallic enclosure that is powered by this

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: I have made a servo PSU. It simply rectifies mains voltage to give me 325V DC. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HdNJXBD5wPqDUi9E8C46HQ?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dTcU2i7GYh53xSrqjh--BQ?feat=directlink There is a bit of extra componentry in the

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 September 2011 17:15, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: - Think about the effects that plugging the mains plug 180 degrees turned over could have, don't rely on wires having seemingly no potential in one case! This isn't possible with UK wiring. Also, UK 240V single phase is neutral

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 September 2011 17:36, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: No, if you rectify the mains, the -V terminal will NOT be anywhere near neutral.  It will essentially be floating near whichever mains terminal is currently more negative than the other.  So, it will be swinging 120 times a

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011, Peter Blodow wrote: Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:15:33 +0200 From: Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 17:57 +0100, andy pugh wrote: On 6 September 2011 17:15, Peter Blodow p.blo...@dreki.de wrote: - Think about the effects that plugging the mains plug 180 degrees turned over could have, don't rely on wires having seemingly no potential in one case! This isn't

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Don Stanley
Andy; Sorry for being cryptic. The 1:1 isolation transformer you considered. It could be a step up or step down if you wanted different DC voltage. Consider that the DC output of the rectifier and filter will be about 1.5 times the AC voltage Hook the input power to the transformer input leads

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 September 2011 23:14, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: I've regularly seen much higher than a few volts. I think it depends a lot on location and local wiring condition/type and ground conditions. I am not sure I want to think to hard about this, because then I will end up

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Dave
I am trusting to cleverer folk than myself for that part. Also, make sure the motor connections are very well-made, The motor connector plugs cost more than the motors. They ought to be up to the job. http://sineco.3dcartstores.com/assets/images/PDFs/DataSheets/MB1CKN0600.pdf

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:16:17 PM andy pugh did opine: I have made a servo PSU. It simply rectifies mains voltage to give me 325V DC. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HdNJXBD5wPqDUi9E8C46HQ?feat=direc tlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dTcU2i7GYh53xSrqjh--BQ?feat=direc

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: It's UK single phase, and neutral is only ever a few volts from earth. OK, then the V- is swinging 50 times a second between -168 V from neutral and approximately equal to neutral. Obviously you have full galvanic isolation between the power transistors and the

Re: [Emc-users] Servo PSU

2011-09-06 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:19:35 PM Andy Pugh did opine: On 6 Sep 2011, at 15:21, Don Stanley dstanley1...@gmail.com wrote: The transformer will isolate the common return for you so your equipment will stay at earth ground and you won't glow in the dark when you touch it. Which