Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-09 Thread Eric Keller
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, John Stewart wrote: > > Much of my model building is simple machining operations, and I *do* find > myself using my old mill rather than my new CNC one, because it's just > faster to throw in a bit of material and machine it. > I can't stand to do any operations o

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-09 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Yup. I'm here. It's been a while since I touched GWiz -- or EMC ^H^H^H^H LinuxCNC, for that matter. I've been thinking about a slightly different model for manual (or perhaps I should call it interactive) machining. Imagine: 0 -- select a tool from a menu (also feed rate, etc -- or possibly mat

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-09 Thread charles green
it would be impressive to set up a 6m radius cut on a lathe tho. it's the stuff of blogging. --- On Thu, 3/8/12, Peter Blodow wrote: > From: Peter Blodow > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining. > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-09 Thread Mark Wendt
On 03/08/2012 01:10 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Viesturs Lācis wrote: > >> I also have thought about the solution for situations, what to do, >> when a machining operation is simple enough that writing a code for it >> would take more time than actual work. >> My intended solution - add 2 (or 3) MPG

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread Peter Blodow
Dave, you have apoint there. I'm speaking now strictly as an amateur CNC user. Of course, making one or a couple of parts is much quicker manually than using CNC. But there are lots of parts you couldn't possibly make by hand, and this is where CNC comes in on the hobbyist level. Some examples:

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread dave
On Wed, 7 Mar 2012 23:17:17 -0600 Jack Coats wrote: > As an old friend told me... > UNIX (and Linux) are user friendly, but it is picky about who its > friends are. > > Yes, most folks that talk about software not being user friendly, > don't want to have to read a manual, or check requisites

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, March 08, 2012 02:53:49 PM Frank Tkalcevic did opine: > Don't forget GWiz > (http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GWiz_-_A_Gcode_Wizard_Framewor > k) - it needs a screen shot - that page doesn't sell it well. > > I've build some lathe wizards, and I've just converted my router >

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread Jon Elson
Viesturs Lācis wrote: > I also have thought about the solution for situations, what to do, > when a machining operation is simple enough that writing a code for it > would take more time than actual work. > My intended solution - add 2 (or 3) MPGs (most probably - cheap, low > resolution encoders)

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Every where I 'worked' I mounted a vise and lathe chuck on a corner of the table and tried to leave them in place all the time. The vise is dialed in with the top of the jaw, the face of the jaw and each end of the jaw at a known location on the table. The lathe chuck (mounted to a plate) is in kno

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/8 John Stewart : > > Much of my model building is simple machining operations, and I *do* find > myself using my old mill rather than my new CNC one, because it's just faster > to throw in a bit of material and machine it. > Hmm, I have yet to "grow" to get my first mill or lathe with Lin

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread sam sokolik
Heh - since we got the K&T back up and running - the manual mill has been off. (except for boring out engine sleeves for scrap aluminum cleanup). Even the simplest jobs are just as easy to throw on the cnc an run in mdi or make a short program. But that is just me.. (plus the k&t has 2 palle

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs; (I can't agree or disagree with any of this thread, as I'm on an exploratory path, and I don't know what the eventual outcome will be) > … but on the other hand, ngcgui probably > should go mainstream as it is much better than hand-writing the code… This is what is bandied about in t

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-08 Thread Frank Tkalcevic
Don't forget GWiz (http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GWiz_-_A_Gcode_Wizard_Framework) - it needs a screen shot - that page doesn't sell it well. I've build some lathe wizards, and I've just converted my router (although I usually use visual mill for cam) It is just waiting for someone to s

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/8 John Stewart : > > Agreed. > > Saying that - here we go with *my* scan through the documents and how *I* > missed NGCGUI. Sorry, I think that ngcgui does not fit in the category "getting started with LinuxCNC", I find it to be somewhat advanced (maybe because I have no need for it curren

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Jack Coats
As an old friend told me... UNIX (and Linux) are user friendly, but it is picky about who its friends are. Yes, most folks that talk about software not being user friendly, don't want to have to read a manual, or check requisites (pre or post). In my experience, 'user friendly' means to many,

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: > On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 12:44 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: > ... snip > >> So, I rarely have to write any G-code, just stitch together a bunch of small >> programs created this way with a text editor. >> > ... snip > > How would one do this with Touchy? I can see an advantage

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart
Viesturs; > ... No offence to anyone, but LinuxCNC manuals perfectly explain, > how to get started with this application, so I have a feeling that > those who complain that LinuxCNC is not userfriendly, had not done the > homework and had not tried to learn anything about the program (at > least f

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/7 Greg Bernard : > I have to say that as a newbie 2 years ago I did a trial of both Mach and > LinuxCNC. Even with practically no knowledge of Linux I found LinuxCNC to be > no more difficult to set up using the LiveCD than Mach was. Could not say more precise about myself. A little OT -

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 9:52 AM, John Stewart wrote: > Hi all; > > As we all know, Mach3 has a list of "wizards" to do simple things like > pocketing, etc, without the need to do the g-code. > > > There was a "visual programming" interface for EMC, but I think that was during the period when Hurco

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Greg Bernard
me was that I was able to run Linux on a 10 year old P4 that choked on Mach. I don't regret my choice at all. > > From: John Stewart >To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:51 PM >Subject: Re: [Emc-use

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 12:44 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: ... snip > So, I rarely have to write any G-code, just stitch together a bunch of small > programs created this way with a text editor. ... snip How would one do this with Touchy? I can see an advantage to a system that could allow for a design a

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart
Hi all; Thanks for the really interesting answers so far. I keep reading that "LinuxCnc (emc2) is really hard to setup and use", and "I do 99% of my machining with Mach3 wizards". Like many here I have been programming since Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, but that's not going to cut it for

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Jon Elson
John Stewart wrote: > Hi all; > > As we all know, Mach3 has a list of "wizards" to do simple things like > pocketing, etc, without the need to do the g-code. > > Googling for wizards/druids or whatever, it seems like this idea never took > off. Most references I see are from 2007-2009 timeframe.

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Anders Wallin
I have some small demos of what my CAM-libraries can do over here: https://github.com/aewallin/linuxcnc-scripts I'd be happy to help create wizards/GUIs for these if someone finds them useful. In particular there was interest in v-carving of fonts. The problem I ran into was that truetype-tracer

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/3/7 John Stewart : > Hi all; > > As we all know, Mach3 has a list of "wizards" to do simple things like > pocketing, etc, without the need to do the g-code. I feel that NGCGUI basically is the same: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn8T5Fw0ISs Viesturs ---

Re: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread charles green
cutting and pasting is actually a huge timesaver for editing gcodes. in my experience, automated coding comes with a large supply of automated disasters. --- On Wed, 3/7/12, John Stewart wrote: > From: John Stewart > Subject: [Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining

[Emc-users] State of Wizards/Druids for simple machining.

2012-03-07 Thread John Stewart
Hi all; As we all know, Mach3 has a list of "wizards" to do simple things like pocketing, etc, without the need to do the g-code. Googling for wizards/druids or whatever, it seems like this idea never took off. Most references I see are from 2007-2009 timeframe. Yes, I do use the arc buddy, a