[Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-24 Thread John Figie
emc-users, I acquired a Clausing 1450 NC lathe with the intention of LinuxCNC retrofit about 6 years ago. I had all kinds of plans to make my own servo drives but never really made much progress due to other priorities. Now I am getting impatient and want to move forward. Currently this machine ha

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-24 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 24 Nov 2020 at 20:25, John Figie wrote: > I am thinking that I want to use Mesa Etherent I/O cards and I want to use > PID servo control. > > About the motors: These are Peerless DC motors (8 brushes). 66V max and > 3.75 Amps Max. 800 RPM coupled directly to the ball screws with a servo >

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 24 November 2020 15:09:42 John Figie wrote: > emc-users, > > I acquired a Clausing 1450 NC lathe with the intention of LinuxCNC > retrofit about 6 years ago. I had all kinds of plans to make my own > servo drives but never really made much progress due to other > priorities. Now I am ge

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-24 Thread John Figie
Andy, Thanks for the suggestions, I think that is really helpful. I will have to look at the docs for this stuff. As for the lathe it is actually a model 1550 NC even though the swing is 14". I have the manual for it and it has a complete parts breakdown with illustrations. It looks like the orig

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 24 November 2020 21:15:31 John Figie wrote: > Andy, > > Thanks for the suggestions, I think that is really helpful. I will > have to look at the docs for this stuff. > > As for the lathe it is actually a model 1550 NC even though the swing > is 14". I have the manual for it and it has a

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-24 Thread John Figie
Andy, I looked over the information you provided. It is not clear to me how the 7i80hv_16_sv.. "SV" sections work. The card provides a PWM output for the 7i40, the encoder feedback comes back to the 7i40 and then back to LinuxCNC servo thread where the loop is closed? So is this then just a singl

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-25 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 04:01, John Figie wrote: > I looked over the information you provided. It is not clear to me how the > 7i80hv_16_sv.. "SV" sections work. The card provides a PWM output for the > 7i40, the encoder feedback comes back to the 7i40 and then back to LinuxCNC > servo thread whe

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-25 Thread Todd Zuercher
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 4:20 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit. [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 04:01, John Figie wrote: > I looked over the information you provided. It is not clear to me ho

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-25 Thread Les Newell
I have used both and personally prefer a single torque loop. My lathe runs a 7i80 in torque mode. The router uses velocity mode analog Bosch drives with tachos. The mill runs Yaskawa drives that were configured in velocity but now I run in torque mode. It is easier to tune the outer loop in ve

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-27 Thread John Figie
It is good to hear about your experiences with the different ways to control the motor. I tend to overthink and make things more complicated than necessary sometimes. But just as a point of clarification, industrial servo drives typically have 3 loops in cascade for position control. The inner loop

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-27 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 18:45, John Figie wrote: > I think I am going to attempt to figure out what the parameters of my motor > are and make a model to simulate my control loop. For hobby stuff I think > LTspice may be good to model and simulate. I am not sure what you hope to gain from a model.

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2020-11-29 Thread dave engvall
On 11/27/20 10:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 18:45, John Figie wrote: I think I am going to attempt to figure out what the parameters of my motor are and make a model to simulate my control loop. For hobby stuff I think LTspice may be good to model and simulate. I am not s

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2021-09-13 Thread John Figie
It's been a long time and I have not made much progress. Except now I am retired from my job as an electrical engineer. In my job I developed industrial PMAC servo drives for a leading industrial controls manufacturer located in Milwaukee. So to solve my servo amplifier problem I have decided to bu

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2021-09-13 Thread John Dammeyer
e-dev/stmbl John Dammeyer > -Original Message- > From: John Figie [mailto:zephyr9...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-13-21 1:32 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit. > > It's been a long time and I have not m

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2021-09-13 Thread John Figie
; > Sent: September-13-21 1:32 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit. > > > > It's been a long time and I have not made much progress. Except now I am > > retired from my job as an electrical engineer.

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2021-09-13 Thread John Dammeyer
com] > Sent: September-13-21 3:39 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit. > > John, > > Thanks for the info so it looks like the Mesa Smart Serial interface can be > used with this drive. If I understand correctly the SS

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2021-09-14 Thread John Figie
: John Figie [mailto:zephyr9...@gmail.com] > > Sent: September-13-21 3:39 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit. > > > > John, > > > > Thanks for the info so it looks like the Mesa Smart Serial

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2021-09-14 Thread John Dammeyer
troller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit. > > John, > > When STMBL is using the SSERIAL interface is the drive operating in > position mode and receiving periodic position commands from the motion > planner in LinuxCNC? If so, then I would think that the

Re: [Emc-users] Suggestions for a retrofit.

2021-09-14 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 14 Sep 2021, at 22:04, John Figie wrote: > > so I am wondering how one would go about > configuring LinuxCNC for the STMBL. It’s surprisingly simple at the HAL end: https://github.com/rene-dev/stmbl/blob/master/docs/linuxcnc/stmbl.hal ___ Emc