Re: [E-devel] E22 -> (Bryce / Shelf) -> (Gadgets / New Gadgets) -> (Confusion / No Confusion)

2017-04-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:51:41 +0100 Al Poole said: > Hi all, > > Regarding the next e22 release, at least regarding the Bryce and the new > gadget system. > > The following might be a good idea: > > >- Keep the existing shelves and disable end-user exposure to the bryce. >- Use the new

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 23:25:39 -0700 Cedric BAIL said: > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Simon Lees wrote: > >> On 04/10/2017 12:39 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >>> Which brings me to my last point: we should adopt and

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:09:08 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > Hi all, > > Nowadays with a newborn daughter I have more time to think than to > code (likely to remain like that for few more weeks), so I did think a > bit more of our development process in the light of "how to make it > faste

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Andrew Williams
Hi, Just to chip in here I have to disagree that type checking is only available in low level languages. There are many high level, easy to code systems with explicit and compile time checks. I don't think that as a project grows it should get lower level - that is counter intuitive and may indica

[EGIT] [core/efl] master 02/03: evas filters: Fix a rare crash in text render (SW)

2017-04-10 Thread Jean-Philippe ANDRÉ
jpeg pushed a commit to branch master. http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=f3c9500a6d7de03f92b62cf6515518dbe6385259 commit f3c9500a6d7de03f92b62cf6515518dbe6385259 Author: Jean-Philippe Andre Date: Mon Apr 10 16:56:14 2017 +0900 evas filters: Fix a rare crash in text rend

[EGIT] [core/efl] master 03/03: evas map: Fix test case "Flip Page"

2017-04-10 Thread Jean-Philippe ANDRÉ
jpeg pushed a commit to branch master. http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=fd69113f6a9e2735a3e1ad2d0830982c722f453e commit fd69113f6a9e2735a3e1ad2d0830982c722f453e Author: Jean-Philippe Andre Date: Mon Apr 10 19:38:56 2017 +0900 evas map: Fix test case "Flip Page"

[EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/03: edje: Add workaround for misuses of clip_set

2017-04-10 Thread Jean-Philippe ANDRÉ
jpeg pushed a commit to branch master. http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=c0db1f422502102f012fadfa17078a69d085c736 commit c0db1f422502102f012fadfa17078a69d085c736 Author: Jean-Philippe Andre Date: Mon Apr 10 16:01:28 2017 +0900 edje: Add workaround for misuses of clip_se

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 1:51 AM, Simon Lees wrote: > > > On 04/10/2017 12:21 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Simon Lees wrote: >>> On 04/10/2017 12:39 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Hi all, >>> >>> Enlightenment is using it in some places and

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Cedric BAIL wrote: > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Simon Lees wrote: >> On 04/10/2017 12:21 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Simon Lees wrote: On 04/10/2017 12:39 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: Enlightenment

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
To focus on very specific items that you mentioned: I did some exploration into using eo/lian in enlightenment a few years ago and instability immediately proved that this was a waste of time. I have no interest in revisiting or considering anything related to eo/eolian/bindings/interfaces/etc unt

Re: [E-devel] E22 -> (Bryce / Shelf) -> (Gadgets / New Gadgets) -> (Confusion / No Confusion)

2017-04-10 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:07 AM Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:51:41 +0100 Al Poole said: > > > Hi all, > > > > Regarding the next e22 release, at least regarding the Bryce and the new > > gadget system. > > > > The following might be a good idea: > > > > > >- Keep the exist

[E-devel] elm_test: Flip Interactive (page) broken

2017-04-10 Thread Vincent Torri
Hey @jpeg : the Flip Interactive test, page effect, is not correctly working,both by using the mouse, or by clicking on "Flip Go" button Maybe the same kind of fix you did for the Flip page test should be done Vincent -

Re: [E-devel] 1.19 release imminent?

2017-04-10 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
I can confirm that the specific case cited in that ticket is now fixed, but I ran some other tests from azy and they are now failing when they did not used to fail. I've requested some regression testing from another azy user, and I hope to have these results within a day or so. On a side note, I

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:09:08 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > >> Hi all, >> >> Nowadays with a newborn daughter I have more time to think than to >> code (likely to remain like that for few more weeks), so I did think a >> bit m

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:50 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 23:25:39 -0700 Cedric BAIL said: > >> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> wrote: >> > On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Simon Lees wrote: >> >> On 04/10/2017 12:39 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wr

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > To focus on very specific items that you mentioned: > > I did some exploration into using eo/lian in enlightenment a few years ago > and instability immediately proved that this was a waste of time. I have no > interest in revisiting or

Re: [E-devel] 1.19 release imminent?

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: > I can confirm that the specific case cited in that ticket is now fixed, but > I ran some other tests from azy and they are now failing when they did not > used to fail. I've requested some regression testing from another azy user, > and

Re: [E-devel] 1.19 release imminent?

2017-04-10 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
I no longer do development or maintain azy, that's been taken over by some others on the list who work more closely with it and ship it in production. They actually still use EFL 1.7 with selective backports since we have no way to configure a "server" build and were--for some reason that I don't r

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:13 AM Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri < barbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz > wrote: > > To focus on very specific items that you mentioned: > > > > I did some exploration into using eo/lian in enlightenment a few years > ago > > an

[EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: wayland_imf: Fix bug in shutdown

2017-04-10 Thread Derek Foreman
derekf pushed a commit to branch master. http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=fb01a697dd099f17a6a30c74781b6cfeb72bc512 commit fb01a697dd099f17a6a30c74781b6cfeb72bc512 Author: Derek Foreman Date: Mon Apr 10 14:44:33 2017 -0500 wayland_imf: Fix bug in shutdown Theor

Re: [E-devel] 1.19 release imminent?

2017-04-10 Thread Mike Blumenkrantz
Okay, I've heard back and it seems like current ecore-con behavior matches expected behavior so I have no more blockers there. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 2:26 PM Mike Blumenkrantz < michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote: > I no longer do development or maintain azy, that's been taken over by some >

[E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-10 Thread Cedric BAIL
Hello everyone, So there is an ongoing thread about what to do after we are done making EFL easier to use... but I guess it would be nice to share a bit of what we think it means and what we plan for this year. There is a meta ticket to track all of that : https://phab.enlightenment.org/T5301 , bu

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Simon Lees
On 04/11/2017 12:25 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler > wrote: >> On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:09:08 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> >> said: >> >> Is it an old need? At least on OSX and modern Windows apps are encouraged to >> fit in and look

Re: [E-devel] E22 -> (Bryce / Shelf) -> (Gadgets / New Gadgets) -> (Confusion / No Confusion)

2017-04-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:18:17 + Mike Blumenkrantz said: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:07 AM Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > > On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:51:41 +0100 Al Poole said: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Regarding the next e22 release, at least regarding the Bryce and the new > > > gadget syst

[EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: elementary - efl ui flip - fix map apply for page flip

2017-04-10 Thread Carsten Haitzler
raster pushed a commit to branch master. http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=6e7c8e591bd7750701af36f3bbd132799bfc4e68 commit 6e7c8e591bd7750701af36f3bbd132799bfc4e68 Author: Carsten Haitzler (Rasterman) Date: Tue Apr 11 09:56:22 2017 +0900 elementary - efl ui flip - fix m

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Simon Lees wrote: > On 04/11/2017 12:25 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler >> wrote: >>> On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:09:08 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >>> >>> said: >>> >>> Is it an old need? At least on OSX an

Re: [E-devel] elm_test: Flip Interactive (page) broken

2017-04-10 Thread Jean-Philippe André
raster fixed it apparently :) On 10 April 2017 at 23:21, Vincent Torri wrote: > Hey > > @jpeg : the Flip Interactive test, page effect, is not correctly > working,both by using the mouse, or by clicking on "Flip Go" button > > Maybe the same kind of fix you did for the Flip page test should be d

Re: [E-devel] changing development of core apps and E itself

2017-04-10 Thread Simon Lees
On 04/11/2017 10:46 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Simon Lees wrote: >> On 04/11/2017 12:25 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 6:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler >>> wrote: On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:09:08 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbie

Re: [E-devel] Making EFL easier to use

2017-04-10 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
I'm commenting mostly on tickets, but two points I'd like to reply here: On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Cedric BAIL wrote: [...] > Finally something that we are not addressing yet, but would I think > make sense, is some way to describe simple layout (Like Android XML > file or Microsoft XAML)

[EGIT] [core/efl] master 01/01: evas: If there isn't clipper when recalcing clip, set mask.clip = NULL.

2017-04-10 Thread Minkyoung Kim
jpeg pushed a commit to branch master. http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=60a97c9be30ce429c9609f631c0b24d748c9b3d7 commit 60a97c9be30ce429c9609f631c0b24d748c9b3d7 Author: Minkyoung Kim Date: Tue Apr 11 13:47:55 2017 +0900 evas: If there isn't clipper when recalcing clip,