Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2006-09-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:28:38 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:18:50 +0900 Carsten writes: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:44:42 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Let me sharply critical here. Unfortunately for many other libs

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-10-07 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:06:10 +0900 Carsten writes: On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:24:29 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: But no, that's not what I meant here. There are many canvas 'models' in the object types they support and the event model they (may) use:

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-10-06 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:24:29 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ecore-evas' buffer based sub-canvas is 'flawed' in several respects: 1. It forces one to use the software engine, like it or not, and with modular based engines that means loading that engine. 2.

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:46 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:44:08 +0900 Carsten writes: On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:48:31 -0400 Rodolfo Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I'm not very familiar with how evas or smart objects are currently

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-21 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:57:02 +0900 Carsten writes: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:46 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:44:08 +0900 Carsten writes: when u move an object evas sees if this obj intersected the poitner xo-ord, if it did evas

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-21 Thread dan sinclair
[snip] the canvas code needs a complete rewrite, especially in relation to clipping, stacking, and event-handling. In order to do that *right*, there are design issues that need to be addressed... You do realize that for pretty much any software in existence a rewrite is the last

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:34:26 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:57:02 +0900 Carsten writes: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:15:46 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:44:08 +0900 Carsten writes: when u move

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-21 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 23:30:24 -0400 dan sinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] the canvas code needs a complete rewrite, especially in relation to clipping, stacking, and event-handling. In order to do that *right*, there are design issues that need to be addressed... You

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-21 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 12:36:22 +0900 Carsten writes: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:34:26 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Yeah.. But unfortunately the current evas in CVS does not do that :( Mainly (but also due to some pass-events confusion) due to

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-20 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 09:44:08 +0900 Carsten writes: On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:48:31 -0400 Rodolfo Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I'm not very familiar with how evas or smart objects are currently structured, but since you are looking for mechanisms for structured event handling I

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-17 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:10:27 +0900 Carsten writes: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:28:38 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Ok. Let's talk about canvas/gfx specific issues a bit. Two key elements: rendering and event-handling. But how do we deal with them and integrate

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:48:31 -0400 Rodolfo Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I'm not very familiar with how evas or smart objects are currently structured, but since you are looking for mechanisms for structured event handling I was wondering if any of you have thought about using

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:44:42 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Let me sharply critical here. Unfortunately for many other libs and apps, if evas is the graphics engine they use, it's important to get it more than just good enough -- as they will later find

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-16 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:18:50 +0900 Carsten writes: On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 01:44:42 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Let me sharply critical here. Unfortunately for many other libs and apps, if evas is the graphics engine they use, it's important to get it more

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-16 Thread Rodolfo Hansen
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 09:44 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:48:31 -0400 Rodolfo Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I'm not very familiar with how evas or smart objects are currently structured, but since you are looking for mechanisms for structured event handling

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 13:26:34 -0400 Rodolfo Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: :) Yeah, that's sort of what i'm talking about. For example: http://www.flashsim.com/examples/watch/watchWchart.html http://www.flashsim.com/flash_resources-uml.html Statecharts are more like a way to structure

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 05:28:38 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: true. but given that i only have a few hrs a week to do this stuff. what do i work on? e is a priority. likely above evas in priority right now. I know.. But it's not just evas I'm trying to point to

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:03:59 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: This is in part one-half of the issue I tried to raise earlier in my email regarding Smart Objects... and it's the tougher half. One might not really 'need' to add event objects to a smart object -

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:58:51 -0500 Brian Mattern [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Raster, I've been noticing that we often want to accept generic evas mouse events on edje objects (such as ibar icons, pager windows, pager desks, etc). So, we've been adding event objects and moving/resizing them

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-15 Thread Rodolfo Hansen
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 02:52 -0400, Jose O Gonzalez wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:18:14 -0500 Brian writes: Jose O Gonzalez wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:58:51 -0500 Brian writes: Raster, I've been noticing that we often want to accept generic evas mouse events on edje

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-15 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 13:02:42 +0900 Carsten writes: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:52:51 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: . I have the feeling that unless smart-objects adopt most of the semantics that is used in window systems (in dealing with the parent/child

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-14 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:18:14 -0500 Brian writes: Jose O Gonzalez wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:58:51 -0500 Brian writes: Raster, I've been noticing that we often want to accept generic evas mouse events on edje objects (such as ibar icons, pager windows, pager desks, etc).

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:52:51 -0400 Jose O Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: [BTW - recall that in general there's no constraint relating the geometry of a smart object to the visible geometrical extent of its member objects] It's a nice idea, and would likely go far to solve the

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-13 Thread Jose O Gonzalez
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:58:51 -0500 Brian writes: Raster, I've been noticing that we often want to accept generic evas mouse events on edje objects (such as ibar icons, pager windows, pager desks, etc). So, we've been adding event objects and moving/resizing them along with the

Re: [E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-13 Thread Brian Mattern
Jose O Gonzalez wrote: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:58:51 -0500 Brian writes: Raster, I've been noticing that we often want to accept generic evas mouse events on edje objects (such as ibar icons, pager windows, pager desks, etc). So, we've been adding event objects and moving/resizing them

[E-devel] edje and event objects

2005-09-12 Thread Brian Mattern
Raster, I've been noticing that we often want to accept generic evas mouse events on edje objects (such as ibar icons, pager windows, pager desks, etc). So, we've been adding event objects and moving/resizing them along with the edjes and setting cb's on those. As this becomes more frequent,