Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-23 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
Phuah Yee Keat wrote: > Felix Breuer wrote: > >> What I would like to know is the following: >> >> * What is the standard way for a login manager to read/set the >> environment for >> a session? Are login managers supposed to go through an Xsession >> script? > > > I was just poking around the

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-12 Thread Phuah Yee Keat
Felix Breuer wrote: What I would like to know is the following: * What is the standard way for a login manager to read/set the environment for a session? Are login managers supposed to go through an Xsession script? I was just poking around the Entrance source and also the way xdm works las

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-11 Thread Felix Breuer
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:22:33 -0600 Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/9/05, Felix Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Entrance executes a login shell to start a session? That is interesting. > > I did a quick grep and could not find the relevant part of the code, could > > you

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-09 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
Felix Breuer wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 08:46:55 -0600 > Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Hi Felix, > > > Hi Nathan and everyone, > > [sorry for the week of silence, I was AWFK] > > >>I may have missed it with all of the other discussion in this thread, but >>could you expl

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-09 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
On 12/9/05, Felix Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Entrance executes a login shell to start a session? That is interesting.I did a quick grep and could not find the relevant part of the code, couldyou point me to it?Sure, take a look in entrance/src/client/entrance_session.c at the function  entr

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-09 Thread Felix Breuer
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 08:46:55 -0600 Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Felix, Hi Nathan and everyone, [sorry for the week of silence, I was AWFK] > I may have missed it with all of the other discussion in this thread, but > could you explain the base issue you're trying to address?

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-02 Thread David Sharp
On 12/2/05, Nathan Ingersoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Felix, > > I may have missed it with all of the other discussion in this thread, but > could you explain the base issue you're trying to address? Yah, really, Raster, MeJ, I think it would be more appropriate to take your license discuss

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-02 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
Hi Felix,I may have missed it with all of the other discussion in this thread, but could you explain the base issue you're trying to address? There isn't much that we would want from the root environment passed to the users session, so I think clearing the environment is mandatory. Why and when do

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-02 Thread Felix Breuer
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 03:54:15 + Felix Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, if you think Entrance should always clear the environment, that's > ok. My next option would then be to have Entrance read the variables it > is supposed to set from /etc/environment. If I am not mistaken, simply > ex

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-02 Thread Felix Breuer
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:54:26 -0600 (CST) "Ibukun Olumuyiwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I would think it is...and I'm having a hard time understanding > why you would not want to clear the environment first. Any env settings > you want for a user should be stored in that users profile t

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 17:15:04 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Thursday, 01 December 2005, at 15:47:01 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > it provides the rights to duplicate and modify freely as long as you > > give credit as to the source, provide source, or email the

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Jennings
On Thursday, 01 December 2005, at 15:47:01 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > it provides the rights to duplicate and modify freely as long as you > give credit as to the source, provide source, or email the > authors. read it. this means you CAN distribute it under the same > name - with modifica

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 00:08:58 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Thursday, 01 December 2005, at 13:29:31 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > and other peopl have every right to work on the code. > > I never said otherwise. > > > actually its a matter for those who use a

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-30 Thread Michael Jennings
On Thursday, 01 December 2005, at 13:29:31 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > and other peopl have every right to work on the code. I never said otherwise. > actually its a matter for those who use and write the licenses. You are entitled to your interpretation. It means absolutely nothing,

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-30 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Wednesday, 30 November 2005, at 09:54:27 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > My point is that it's his responsibility to give up the reigns or > > > simply take a less active development role (and more ma

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-30 Thread Michael Jennings
On Wednesday, 30 November 2005, at 09:54:27 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > My point is that it's his responsibility to give up the reigns or > > simply take a less active development role (and more management). > > It's his choice. > > he HAS taken a less active role. thats my whole point!

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:39:50 -0600 (CST) "Ibukun Olumuyiwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > This is funny indeed. What's the debate? The code is BSD licensed, and I > own the rights to it. That said, I've already said before, I would like at > least one person to help me maintain and manage the cod

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 15:47:11 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > I'm afraid this thread is taking on a life of its own like some of the > previous ones. So I'm going to try to trim a bit. > > > On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 16:10:14 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > >

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
Actually, I would think it is...and I'm having a hard time understanding why you would not want to clear the environment first. Any env settings you want for a user should be stored in that users profile to begin with, not carried over from root's. --Ibukun On Tue, November 29, 2005 6:23 am, Feli

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Michael Jennings
I'm afraid this thread is taking on a life of its own like some of the previous ones. So I'm going to try to trim a bit. On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 16:10:14 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > yes - but its not a temporary condition. xcomps life changed ina way > where he'll be ultra-busy

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Felix Breuer
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:39:50 -0600 (CST) "Ibukun Olumuyiwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought someone was offering to write a patch for an Entrance feature. > Why not discuss THAT? The, in my view, easiest solution for my problem would be to add an option to entrance_config.cfg specifiying w

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 16:09:05 (+0100), Laszlo Treszkai wrote: > I think this is the same situation, and we know xcomp is gone for a > long time, No, we do not. > and I'm sure he would give to anyone the right to maintain and own > it, as I read him saying he CAN'T be active. I'd rea

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
By all means send a patch. Thanks. :) On Mon, November 28, 2005 6:31 am, Felix Breuer said: > Hi all, > > I need to specify a environment for users who log in via Entrance. I > noticed that Entrance first clears the environment and then sets a > couple of variables that are hardcoded in /src/clien

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Ibukun Olumuyiwa
This is funny indeed. What's the debate? The code is BSD licensed, and I own the rights to it. That said, I've already said before, I would like at least one person to help me maintain and manage the code. To say that I've "disappeared" altogether is not fair at all, or to compare me to others who

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Nathan Ingersoll
As only one person has even stepped forward to work on entrance recently with a couple small (but useful) patches, arguing ownership seems pretty pointless at this point.

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-29 Thread Laszlo Treszkai
On 28/11/05, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 12:25:54 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > as per xcomps own words - he is too busy to work on it. he would > > like to, but can't. > > So what? That doesn't make him any less a developer. It just makes > him a busy de

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:30:05 +0100 Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Michael Jennings wrote: > >>until it gets active developers and maintainers. if you wish to pick > >>it up... then that would be good. :) > > Again, it's up to Ibukun whether or not he chooses to hand over the > > reig

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:27:37 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 12:25:54 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > as per xcomps own words - he is too busy to work on it. he would > > like to, but can't. > > So what? That doesn't make him any l

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 12:25:54 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > as per xcomps own words - he is too busy to work on it. he would > like to, but can't. So what? That doesn't make him any less a developer. It just makes him a busy developer. Something you and I know a little somethi

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread Morten Nilsen
Michael Jennings wrote: until it gets active developers and maintainers. if you wish to pick it up... then that would be good. :) Again, it's up to Ibukun whether or not he chooses to hand over the reigns. Until then, people can help out and contribute but not take over. or they can fork.. -

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:31:07 -0500 Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 10:25:01 (+0900), > Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > "what developers". > > xcomp. as per xcomps own words - he is too busy to work on it. he would like to, but can't. > > as mailed

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread Michael Jennings
On Tuesday, 29 November 2005, at 10:25:01 (+0900), Carsten Haitzler wrote: > "what developers". xcomp. > as mailed to this list a few weeks back - entrance is without active > maintainers/developers. That's your opinion. As was made clear previously, other opinions differ. > ibukun just doesn

Re: [E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:31:41 + Felix Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi all, > > I need to specify a environment for users who log in via Entrance. I > noticed that Entrance first clears the environment and then sets a > couple of variables that are hardcoded in /src/client/entrance_aut

[E-devel] specifying user environment in Entrance

2005-11-28 Thread Felix Breuer
Hi all, I need to specify a environment for users who log in via Entrance. I noticed that Entrance first clears the environment and then sets a couple of variables that are hardcoded in /src/client/entrance_auth.c. I need to either * prevent Entrance from clearing the environment, or * tell Entra