Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-16 Thread Andrew Williams
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 03:12:59PM +0100, Oliver Vogel wrote: > > Yeah, but it annoys me, with edge flip it happens that when I use the > mouse, I move it to the border of the desktop, don't need it anymore > and just leave it there - without wanting to switch desktops - after the > edge flip time

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-15 Thread Morten Nilsen
Oliver Vogel wrote: I'm used to Alt+Shift+Arrow, that's faster and more convenient for me. and I'm used to Alt-Fn .. so much so that I even use the combo even when in windows.. -- Morten :wq --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk I

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-15 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:12:59 +0100 Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > no, but for someone who uses apps so large that they need the app and > > collection of windows that drives it to span multiple screens, and > > thus are forced to flip desktops to spread the windows across multipl

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-15 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:12:59 +0100 Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > no, but for someone who uses apps so large that they need the app > > and collection of windows that drives it to span multiple screens, > > and thus are forced to flip desktops to spread the windows across > > multi

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-15 Thread Oliver Vogel
> no, but for someone who uses apps so large that they need the app and > collection of windows that drives it to span multiple screens, and > thus are forced to flip desktops to spread the windows across multiple > desktops, then this would be a very fast and quick way to flip. Yeah, but it anno

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:31:49 +0100 Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi again! > > > the onyl difference is that u dont SEE the > > contents of a window that belongs to another desktop that is partly > > overlapping this one. > > And exactly this is what I need. > > I can understand

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 01:35:26 +0100 Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Just one note here: > > > it already does that - try. drag tillthe mouse hits the edge, e flips > > desktosp and the window follows. now u KNOW it has been moved to the > > next desktop - very explicitly. > > Edge fli

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread David Stevenson
On 1/15/06, Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi again!> the onyl difference is that u dont SEE the> contents of a window that belongs to another desktop that is partly> overlapping this one.And exactly this is what I need. Do you really /need/ it? I got used to this feature during my e16

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread Ildar Sagdejev
On 14/01/06, Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Edge flip is the most annoying feature in E (well, not considering the > tooltips in e16). It drives me mad. Actually, I've got edge flip disabled, but it still works that way when I'm dragging a window. I think that works out pretty well. A

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread Oliver Vogel
Just one note here: > it already does that - try. drag tillthe mouse hits the edge, e flips > desktosp and the window follows. now u KNOW it has been moved to the > next desktop - very explicitly. Edge flip is the most annoying feature in E (well, not considering the tooltips in e16). It drives m

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread Oliver Vogel
Hi again! > the onyl difference is that u dont SEE the > contents of a window that belongs to another desktop that is partly > overlapping this one. And exactly this is what I need. I can understand your concerns you have about changing the behaviour in e17, in fact, I don't want the behaviour

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:28:40 +0900 Raphael Plasson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > >1. now u have to MOVE windows insdtead of show/hide - this is less efficient > >and causes more exposes and excess draws. 2. because of icccm and reparenting > >windows -

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:09:41 -0500 Ildar Sagdejev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Raster, > > Thanks for the detailed reply and the intangibility of implementing > such a virtual desktop model. I see the problem weird offscreen > positions pose, but I don't see why that's necessary at all. > > Wh

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 18:28:40 +0900 Raphael Plasson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And wouldn't it possible to just consider to have a larger virtual > desktop, with windows in a fixed position, so that moving around the > desktops would mean to move the coordinates of the on-screen real > desktop (a

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-14 Thread Raphael Plasson
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >1. now u have to MOVE windows insdtead of show/hide - this is less efficient >and causes more exposes and excess draws. 2. because of icccm and reparenting >windows - moving a window with a desk switch creates lots of complications for >apps that like to re

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Ildar Sagdejev
Raster, Thanks for the detailed reply and the intangibility of implementing such a virtual desktop model. I see the problem weird offscreen positions pose, but I don't see why that's necessary at all. What if you implement the logic in the screen change event? E.g., when moving to desktop2, chec

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:57:52 -0500 Ildar Sagdejev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi everyone, > > I'm new to this list, but I'd like to say that I also would find this > feature very useful. I've first installed E17 about a week ago, and > been studying the code base. Maybe in the future I can

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:36:22 +0100 Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi everybody! > > I've got a small problem with the virtual desktops in e17. > > Say I have 5x5 virtual desktops. In the pager, they are shown in a > rectangle, and I can switch between them, so far so good. > Now I h

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:39:05 +0100 Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Hi again! > > > I asked the exact same thing a couple of months ago. > > Take a look of what it was posted. I don't know if > > anything more was said about it. > > I'll comment on a few things here and would appreci

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Ildar Sagdejev
Ben, Andrew, Thanks for the replies. I just got home from work (I was on win xp there), and played around some more with dragging windows, and they can be dragged off a desktop just fine, so please disregard my comments about that ;) I'm going to get the newest version from CVS today and try to

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Andrew Spott
This already happens, in the newest version of E17 you can set backgrounds for specific desktops, I know I have 8 desktops right now and about 5 different images.   The only downside is that with 1600x1200 backgrounds, this feels a little laggy (though it might be the animation that changes the bac

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Ildar Sagdejev
Hi everyone, I'm new to this list, but I'd like to say that I also would find this feature very useful. I've first installed E17 about a week ago, and been studying the code base. Maybe in the future I can also contribute some features I miss from E16. If it's true that the internal design real

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Alejandro Salas
Hi.. I just want to say that I understand you completly. If I had the time I'll gladly give you a hand coding it, but for what I can tell, I'll be busy for some time. If you start coding though, please keep in touch, just in case I can do something to help. Regards, Alejandro ___

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Oliver Vogel
Hi again! > I asked the exact same thing a couple of months ago. > Take a look of what it was posted. I don't know if > anything more was said about it. I'll comment on a few things here and would appreciate an answer on my question below. > Follow up > > I hate this "feature" of E16. I ever as

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Alejandro Salas
I asked the exact same thing a couple of months ago. Take a look of what it was posted. I don't know if anything more was said about it. My original post > Hello everyone, > In e16 I could make a window big enough to see part of > the window in a desktop and the other part in another > desktop. I

Re: [e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Doug McEachern
Having a window split across two desktops was a feature of e16 that is not in e17. From the archives:http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=13654260 dougOn 1/13/06, Oliver Vogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi everybody!I've got a small problem with the virtual desktops in e17.Say I ha

[e-users] e17 virtual desktops

2006-01-13 Thread Oliver Vogel
Hi everybody! I've got a small problem with the virtual desktops in e17. Say I have 5x5 virtual desktops. In the pager, they are shown in a rectangle, and I can switch between them, so far so good. Now I have a window on one of the desktops, I'm moving this window to the right border of the deskt