[EVDL] EVLN: Drayson in Formula E electric racing

2013-01-15 Thread brucedp5
Formula E signs Drayson Racing as first team for 2014 FIA Formula E http://www.theengineer.co.uk/news/drayson-confirms-participation-in-formula-e-electric-racing/1015159.article [image] Drayson confirms participation in Formula E electric racing 10 Jan 2013 [image http://www.theengineer.co.uk/

[EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread brucedp5
http://www.technologytell.com/in-car-tech/1149/nissan-ramps-up-u-s-leaf-production-with-lower-cost-model/ Nissan Ramps Up U.S. LEAF Production with Lower-Cost Model by Lyndon Johnson Jan 14 2013 Nissan said it is ramping up domestic production of the LEAF electric car at its Smyrna, TN assembly

Re: [EVDL] K&W BC-20 Charger For Sale on eBay

2013-01-15 Thread Bruce EVangel Parmenter
The seller may want to consider placing an additional ad in the EVtrandinpost charger section http://www.evtradinpost.com/list/29 Our evdl sys admin has placed a K&W BC-20 manual pdf up on the evdl.org site http://www.evdl.org/docs/bc-20.pdf K&W BC-20 was a fairly common charger in the early 1990

Re: [EVDL] the rihght way

2013-01-15 Thread EVDL Administrator
Folks, please remember that the EVDL is not a political forum, and don't respond to this potentially flamish thread. If you do want to respond, please do so in private (offlist) mail. Thanks, David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread Peri Hartman
Good that they will have a lower priced model. I'm sorry to hear it will not include the heat pump system. It seems they would sell the most vehicles if they striped out all the non-performance related things but keep things like the heat pump. At least the base model will have the 6.6kw charg

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread Cor van de Water
Simple - the heat pump is expensive (essentially a more complicated AirCo, which can cool as well as heat the interior) so keeping the standard resistive heater is cheaper. Many non-performance related stuff costs nothing (software functions) so that is truly a marketing choice whether to keep or s

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread Peri Hartman
In normal cases, I'd agree with you. But I still see EV buyers as more performance oriented, thus making their decision not so much on purchase price + features but rather on price plus range, putting features second. Maybe the heat pump doesn't add that much range. Better regen certainly coul

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread Evan Tuer
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Cor van de Water wrote: > Simple - the heat pump is expensive (essentially a more complicated > AirCo, > which can cool as well as heat the interior) so keeping the standard > resistive heater is cheaper. > Many non-performance related stuff costs nothing (software

[EVDL] My bad

2013-01-15 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions
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[EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread Electric Blue auto convertions
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Re: [EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread Peter C.
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Re: [EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread Peter C.
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Re: [EVDL] What did EVs do before today's motor controllers?

2013-01-15 Thread Klaus
I recall seeing a picture of a mechanical PWM controller comprising of a segmented copper disk being spun by smaller electric motor. Two brushes that could be moved relative to one another sat side-by-side on the disk making for PWM control. I can only imagine the shower of sparks it created runn

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread Bruce EVangel Parmenter
[I have updated that post http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Lower-cost-Leaf-S-trim-tp4660579.html to include the following link that points to a Press Release with a little more trim detail http://nissannews.com/en-US/nissan/usa/presskits/us-2013-nissan-leaf-press-ki

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread Peri Hartman
I completely agree with you. Except for cruise control, which actually does improve my range on longer stretches, cutting out the fluff is imperative! Especially that idiotic center console which still eludes me half the time. (Did you know that the center console has a separate clock from the

Re: [EVDL] Why Ford Chose Lithium-Ion for 2013 Hybrids

2013-01-15 Thread EVDL Administrator
On 7 Jan 2013 at 20:30, Hoegberg . wrote: > Also in the race, the Norwegian Pivco. (Later Ford bought it and rename > it to "Th!ink" ) Im almost sure that they did use STM100 -5 cell from > SAFT-NiFe in the cars. water-cooled NiCd 6V 100Ah If I recall correctly, they did indeed use STM5-100MRE l

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The right way to electric cars

2013-01-15 Thread EVDL Administrator
On 12 Jan 2013 at 13:14, Bruce EVangel Parmenter wrote: > It was a good thing we did not have those restrictions in the U.S. when > I was driving my Blazer EV. It would mess up AM/SW radio reception every > time it drove by (no shielded power cables). I guess "good thing" depends on whether you'r

Re: [EVDL] Why Ford Chose Lithium-Ion for 2013 Hybrids

2013-01-15 Thread EVDL Administrator
On 8 Jan 2013 at 17:58, Marcus Reddish wrote: > Most Ni life testing charts have 1000 at the far right side. Here is Saft's for the STM5 NiCd modules. They tested them to 3000 cycles with just over 80% of capacity remaining. http://www.evdl.org/docs/saftgraf.jpg What's more, as I've said, t

[EVDL] Citicar Vin and provenance

2013-01-15 Thread David
? If this rings a bell could you please drop me a note. Thanks Dach. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130115/1c5e303b/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUB

Re: [EVDL] CitiCar Vin and provenance

2013-01-15 Thread Peter Crisitello
f anyone on the list was the previous titled owner and might still have the title? If this rings a bell could you please drop me a note. Thanks Dach. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Lower-cost Leaf S-trim

2013-01-15 Thread Bob Bath
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Re: [EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread Chris Tromley
s it would be almost as smooth, more efficient, and a lot cheaper. Chris LeSled is for sale! http://www.evalbum.com/274 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20130115/237d79db/attachment.htm>

Re: [EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread Tom Keenan
lectric fork lift I worked on was from the early 40s, It had >>> a "gear shift" lever that hit 3 different resistors, "large" for different >>> speeds, and one reversing contactor,, simple and it was still in use way >>> back when I had to rebuild

Re: [EVDL] What did EVs do before today's motor controllers?

2013-01-15 Thread Lee Hart
On 1/15/2013 11:35 AM, Klaus wrote: I recall seeing a picture of a mechanical PWM controller comprising of a segmented copper disk being spun by smaller electric motor. Two brushes that could be moved relative to one another sat side-by-side on the disk making for PWM control. I can only imagin

Re: [EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread Lee Hart
Electric Blue auto convertions wrote: When I was working for Clark fork Lifts in the late 60s they didn't have controllers as we have today, They used a set of Caps, High voltage rectifiers and Xfrmers... If these controllers made a noticeable whistle, those rectifiers were SCRs (Silicon Contr

Re: [EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread David
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[EVDL] thanks for the manual

2013-01-15 Thread K O
weather (slight adjustments, no biggie, adjust the slotted pot in the top of the K&W box and use a Volt meter). -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachmen

Re: [EVDL] early no controllers

2013-01-15 Thread EVDL Administrator
On 15 Jan 2013 at 19:58, David wrote: > is the vintage Curtis PMC I have laying around somewhere an SCR > controller? I trust that if this is in error, someone will correct me. AFAIK, neither PMC nor Curtis has ever made an SCR controller. The early (1970s-1980s) PMC- branded controllers used