iver awareness of potential problems and
> >letting the computer between our ears try and handle these situations.
> >We are far better in reading the intentions of other drivers and
> >pedestrians than any FSD package that may have a problem recognizing
> >and then displaying
an
a human driver. Until then, users of FSD Beta need to be paying attention
to the road at all times while using the feature.
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s, that the vehicle thought the self driving or auto pilot was off
> when it was actually on.? It needs at least 3 computers to vote for life
> critical operations, like self driving on a curvy road ? glitch, drops out &
> goes straight, ok for a desk PC but not for a vehicle.
"I don't see how the FTC hasn't called Tesla on FSD. It smells to me
like false advertising."
Right... so you said maybe a million times now. Don't worry it probably is
working on that.
Part of the problem we have here is the confusion between the difference of
Autopilot and FSD. While they
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Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 06:21:49 -0500
From: Peter Eckhoff
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
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On 8 Feb 2022 at 15:07, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Tesla absolutely must modify FSD in some way to ensure the driver
> is alert. I'm not sure how that might work
They could start by not creating unrealistic expectations - that is, by
calling it something other than "full self driving."
I
On 8 Feb 2022 at 20:00, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Autosteer ... reminds you to place your hands on the wheel.
If you look online, you'll find that Tesla owners don't appreciate those
warnings and look for ways to defeat them.
One example:
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On 8 Feb 2022 at 15:07, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Tesla absolutely must modify FSD in some way to ensure the driver
> is alert. I'm not sure how that might work ...
I agree. They might start by not creating unrealistic expectations. For
example, they could call it something other than
On 8 Feb 2022 at 13:10, paul dove via EV wrote:
> When and where did Tesla say you can let the car drive and play with your
> radio? They say stay alert and keep your hands on the wheel. Sorry it is
> still people who donTMt obey that is the issue here.
Seriously? You expect them to obey that
I can't imagine that basing the decision making primarily on the fog
lines and other road paint is a good way to implement FSD. It seems that
the primary road and object identification should be through pattern
recognition of the roadway itself, using machine learning. Perhaps this
is, in
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> I was driving on the I-210 outside of Los Angeles this weekend, which is
> under construction.
> They've shifted the lanes, but didn't do a good job of blacking out the old
> lane markers.
> So even as a human driver, I found it
I was driving on the I-210 outside of Los Angeles this weekend, which is under
construction. They've shifted the lanes, but didn't do a good job of blacking
out the old lane markers. So even as a human driver, I found it quite
difficult to figure out where the lanes actually were. I was
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All these stories remind me of the one where there was a road with a
sharp left turn. One foggy night, some kid ran the yellow line at the
apex of the "L" straight up the proverbial oak tree. In the morning,
he came back and found he got a car. Someone was following the yellow
line right up and
on the EVlist again.
Have a renewable energy day,
Mark
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