Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-12-02 Thread Collin Kidder via EV
riginal Message -- > From: "Collin Kidder via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Cc: "Collin Kidder" > Sent: 01-Dec-22 06:52:28 > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? > > >Indeed. I've got a 2012 Leaf and a 2013 Leaf. Nei

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-12-01 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
y leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Lee Hart via EV" To: "Collin Kidder via EV" Cc: "Lee Hart" Sent: 01-Dec-22 11:00:13 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? Collin Kidder via EV wrote: In

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-12-01 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Collin Kidder via EV wrote: Indeed. I've got a 2012 Leaf and a 2013 Leaf. Neither shows much battery degradation but the 2012 gets about 30-40 miles range in Winter and the 2013 about 40-45 miles range. We have a 2013 Leaf with about 48k miles on it. Range in the summer is still about 90

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-12-01 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
ather range numbers to > compare to ? > > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Collin Kidder via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Cc: "Col

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-12-01 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
cleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Collin Kidder via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Collin Kidder" Sent: 01-Dec-22 06:52:28 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? Indeed. I've got a 2012 Leaf and a 2013 Leaf. Neither sh

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-12-01 Thread Collin Kidder via EV
Indeed. I've got a 2012 Leaf and a 2013 Leaf. Neither shows much battery degradation but the 2012 gets about 30-40 miles range in Winter and the 2013 about 40-45 miles range. On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 6:16 PM Ken Olum via EV wrote: > Here is a data point about Leaf batteries at cold temperatures.

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-29 Thread Ken Olum via EV
Here is a data point about Leaf batteries at cold temperatures. We drove 40 miles, about 40% at highway speeds, with an outside temperature of 40F. This took the pack from 100% to 29%. Extrapolating gives an all-out range in these conditions of 57 miles. This is a 2015 24kW pack with something

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Jay Summet via EV
: "Ed Blackmond via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Ed Blackmond" Sent: 17-Nov-22 19:47:25 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? If you can afford it, I would recommend getting  a Bolt. A new one is still less than 30K and as far as battery we

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
cleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Ed Blackmond via EV" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Ed Blackmond" Sent: 17-Nov-22 19:47:25 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? If you can afford it, I would recommend getting a Bolt. A new on

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
in NZ 2013 is the worst for battery degradation, almost every >> leaf for sale cheap is 2013, but some are still at 11 bars. I don't know how >> to tell if it's a lizard though. >> -Original Message- >> From: EV On Behalf Of Ken Olum via EV >> Sent: Friday, 18 Nov

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Jay Summet via EV
: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? From: "Peri Hartman" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:12:45 + How do the "lizard" batteries perform in cold weather? I haven't paid careful attention to ours, but there was certainly not some huge problem in the cold. Regardl

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread George Tyler via EV
every leaf for sale cheap is 2013, but some are still at 11 bars. I don't know how to tell if it's a lizard though. -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of Ken Olum via EV Sent: Friday, 18 November 2022 4:47 am To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Ken Olum Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Olum via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Ken Olum" Sent: 17-Nov-22 07:46:52 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? From: "Peri Hartman" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:12:

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-17 Thread Ken Olum via EV
From: "Peri Hartman" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 02:12:45 + How do the "lizard" batteries perform in cold weather? I haven't paid careful attention to ours, but there was certainly not some huge problem in the cold. Regardless of range, you're saying the lizard battery won't degrade

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-16 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
t 70F, what can I > > expect at 25F ? > > > > (By the way, I'm scouring the Internet in parallel, but the comments on > > this list are very helpful.) > > > > Thanks, > > Peri > > > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseat

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-15 Thread Rod Hower via EV
e way, I'm scouring the Internet in parallel, but the comments on > this list are very helpful.) > > Thanks, > Peri > > << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Ken Olum via EV" > To: ev@li

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-13 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Internet in parallel, but the comments on this list are very helpful.) Thanks, Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Olum via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Ken Olum" Sent: 13-Nov-22 1

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-13 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 12 Nov 2022 at 20:12, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > I put a 62kWh pack from a 2019 into my 2012 Leaf. Took one afternoon with > simple tools, like 2 axle stands and 1 hydraulic floor jack and a ratchet > wrench. Check it out here: http://evdl.org/pages/leafbattswap.html David Roden, EVDL

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-13 Thread Ken Olum via EV
We had the battery in our 2013 Leaf replaced with a 2015 24 kWh battery by Leo & Sons in Lawrence, MA. We are very happy with the result. They charged us $4600. We didn't have to do anything but drop off the car and pick it up later. I wouldn't recommend a 30 kWh battery. The newer 24 kWh

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-13 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Cor van de Water" Sent: 12-Nov-22 20:12:58 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? I put a 62kWh pack from a 2019 into my 2012 Leaf. Took one afternoon with simple tools, like 2 axle stands and 1 hydraulic floor jack and a r

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
I put a 62kWh pack from a 2019 into my 2012 Leaf. Took one afternoon with simple tools, like 2 axle stands and 1 hydraulic floor jack and a ratchet wrench. If you can find a pack you would be happy with, then I can provide advice how to do this. Most important part, currently unavailable, is the

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Jay Summet via EV
On 11/12/22 12:38, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Regardless, that's a huge spread from, say, $5k, to replace a leaf battery. My estimate would be 4-7k for a salvage 30 kwh pack + 2-3k labor, so I think your 5k hope is a bit low. Shifting a 30kwh to a 2011 requires special adapter cables as

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > -- Original Message -- > From: "EV List Lackey via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Cc: "EV List Lackey" > Sent: 12-Nov-22 10:20:54 > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replac

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ris" Cc: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" ; "Peri Hartman" Sent: 12-Nov-22 11:26:52 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? I’m sorry but all did was make a website and a Facebook group. I don’t sell batteries, I don’t install batteries I’m in IT Consu

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
gmail.com Sent: 12-Nov-22 11:09:10 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? https://nissanleafbatteryreplacement.com/ On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 10:39 AM Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Does anyone know if there are people or shops willing to do a battery replacement for a 2011 leaf in the gr

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ent: 12-Nov-22 10:20:54 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? On 12 Nov 2022 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: The Bolt EV is close, but I think it's charge time is about 1h 20, which makes it impractical for road trips. I guess that would depend on your definition of "pra

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Willie via EV
On 11/12/22 12:20, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: On 12 Nov 2022 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: The Bolt EV is close, but I think it's charge time is about 1h 20, which makes it impractical for road trips. I guess that would depend on your definition of "practical," and how long the trip

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 12 Nov 2022 at 16:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > The Bolt EV is close, but I think it's charge time is about 1h 20, which makes > it impractical for road trips. I guess that would depend on your definition of "practical," and how long the trip is, and thus how many charging sessions are

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ehicle Discussion List" Cc: "Peter Eckhoff" Sent: 12-Nov-22 09:17:12 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? Hi Peri, Just two suggestions: 1.) Is there not a Leaf owner's forum where you might be able to pose your situation and question? 2.) My ICE mechanic has replaced

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Willie via EV
On 11/12/22 10:58, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Yeah, I have my words for the 2011 leaf, too. But, really, I have to hold my complaints. I wanted the first commercially available EV (in my area) and that was the first choice (perhaps the iMiev would have been slightly better, don't know). I'm

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
Hi Peri, Just two suggestions: 1.) Is there not a Leaf owner's forum where you might be able to pose your situation and question? 2.) My ICE mechanic has replaced Prius packs **and** cells from third party companies. I would think with the number of Leafs out there, there should be a similar

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
years ! Peri << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Willie via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Willie" Sent: 12-Nov-22 08:49:20 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? On 11/12/22 10:37, Peri Ha

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
t;Bob Bath" Sent: 12-Nov-22 08:51:17 Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ? EVRides in Portland is all I know. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat f

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Bob Bath via EV
EVRides in Portland is all I know. Sincerely, Bob Bath 541.761.0838 Note: any misspellings of the contents of this message are due to 56 y.o. vision, hyperactive spell check changing what I typed, or fat fingering— not cluelessness. > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:50 AM, Willie via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Willie via EV
On 11/12/22 10:37, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Does anyone know if there are people or shops willing to do a battery replacement for a 2011 leaf in the greater seattle area ? The range in my Leaf was a dismal 20 miles in our sub zero weather last winter. It certainly isn't going to be any

[EVDL] Leaf battery replacement ?

2022-11-12 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Does anyone know if there are people or shops willing to do a battery replacement for a 2011 leaf in the greater seattle area ? The range in my Leaf was a dismal 20 miles in our sub zero weather last winter. It certainly isn't going to be any better this winter :) I've been looking to simply