Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-13 Thread Martin WINLOW via EV
The problem I have with relying on simple pack voltage measurement to control the charger is that eventually, as the pack ages, one or more cells are going to go out of balance, become the 'weakest link' and cause the capacity of the pack as a whole to unnecessarily reduce. From a safety

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-13 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
Hi Rick and All, Thanks all for the experiences so far. I appreciate it as do others.Please let us know how yours is working with lithium charging too as we need a good sample as we need a good low cost wthr meter especially with adjustable relay

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-13 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
On Sunday, October 12, 2014 10:56 PM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have a JLD-404 that I use as a fuel gauge and it's worked flawlessly for that. How do you find the LED display does in bright sun? Anyone have a nice LCD energy or AH meter they like? Any feelings of

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-13 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
I've got the Blue LED version. No problem seeing it on sunny days. Kinda too bright at night though... On Mon Oct 13 13:46:16 PDT 2014 ev@lists.evdl.org said: On Sunday, October 12, 2014 10:56 PM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: I have a JLD-404 that I use as a fuel gauge and it's

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-13 Thread Paul Dove via EV
According to whom? Sent from my iPad On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Lee Hart via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Cruisin via EVev@lists.evdl.org wrote: Using a meter to turn off a charger at a pre-programmed voltage can be very risky. Paul Dove wrote: Problem is no one has actually proved

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Paul Dove via EV
It is just a panel meter. I use one to turn off my charger. It has worked fine for that and it seems accurate but I haven't compared it to other data. Capacity is another issue since it drops slightly with every charge and discharge cycle. It will keep good record of what was put in. I haven't

[EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
I'm using the DC AH meter. I'm not currently using it's relay outputs for anything. The AH counting seems to be at least consistent, though since I don't currently have any other meters to compare it to, I can't tell accuracy. I generally use it to tell how many AH's I've used - pretty much as

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Cruisin via EV
Using a meter to turn off a charger at a pre-programmed voltage can be very risky. A BMS is designed to perform this function, but turns off the charger when a single cell reaches the pre-programmed voltage, after permitting all cells to achieve the same voltage by shunting. It also protects

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Paul Dove via EV
Problem is no one has actually proved that with experimentation. Not in any of my reading. You can believe what ever you like. I have used ammeter for 2 years now. The voltage always end exactly the same. The next day the pack is the pack is exactly 147 volts. I have never seen any study done

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Michael Ross via EV
Jerry, I have several JLD temperature controllers in service about my lab and they work flawlessly so far. Based on their performance I happily bought the WattHour meter, but I haven't really used it yet. For the cost they are certainly worth a try. Mike On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 3:10 PM,

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Rick Beebe via EV
I have a JLD-404 that I use as a fuel gauge and it's worked flawlessly for that. It seems to be pretty accurate. I have bought things from EVTV even though they are more expensive than other sources, but these I buy right from lightobject because Jack has cranked up the price way too much.

Re: [EVDL] Lightobject meter experience

2014-10-12 Thread Paul Dove via EV
I skip constant voltage. My cell voltage at the end of charge is 3.34 volts after settling for several hours. When I use cc - cv mode they settle to 3.38 volts. You don't loose more than a couple miles range by skipping the cv mode. Sent from my iPad On Oct 12, 2014, at 9:56 PM, Rick Beebe