[EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi Folks I’m trying to decide (with the Corona discount), a trip car like the Prius Prime vs Chevy Bolt (both about $18k, low miles 1-2 years old). On the one hand, the 50Mpg Prime is a no brainer, but with the complexity/service of ICE. What is the cost per KWH to charge at a fast charger? S

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Early Leafs were $10,000 not long ago. A hybrid? “Give a hoot, don’t pollute!” - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Jul 10, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: > > Hi Folks > I’m trying to decide (with the Corona discount), a trip car like the Prius > Prime vs Chevy Bo

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Looks like the Chevy Bolt is the best price for a long range EV slightly used. Have a renewable energy day Mark Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 10, 2020, at 12:23 PM, paul dove wrote: > >  > Used Tesla Under $20,000: 1,255 Cars from $12,900 - iSeeCars.com > > Used Tesla Under $20,000: 1,255 C

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Looks like the Chevy Bolt is the best price for a long range EV slightly used. Have a renewable energy day Mark Sent from my iPhone >> On Jul 10, 2020, at 12:23 PM, paul dove wrote: >  > Used Tesla Under $20,000: 1,255 Cars from $12,900 - iSeeCars.com > > Used Tesla Under $20,000: 1,255 C

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Early Leafs were $10,000 not long ago. A hybrid? “Give a hoot, don’t pollute!” Well, my only ICE car is a plug-in Prius. I had to buy it used in Massachusetts to get it, as Toyota won't sell them here. It has about a 20-mile range as an EV, which is enough for

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
FWIW those $12k-$14k Teslas are wrecked, lots of damage, probably considered "totaled" The cheapest listed Tesla without obvious damage is $25k July 10, 2020 9:12 AM, "paul dove via EV" wrote: > Used Tesla Under $20,000: 1,255 Cars from $12,900 - iSeeCars.com __

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-10 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Yeah sounds like a year old Chevy Bolt or Prius Prime makes the most sense. As Consumer Reports noted in last months issue, used EVs are the most cost effective way to go, typically 30-50% in the first year or two ). Teslas are like Harleys, paying for the name and don’t drop much. The other l

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
Hello Mark, Some Chevy dealers have installed Level 3 charging and they allow Chevy EV owners to connect their Bolts to their system for free. I don't know if this is still the case. I was pumping 20 kwhr into a pack but it slowed up so a complete top off from almost empty takes about 4 hours.

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote: about 4 hours. I visited one dealer in particular and the service tech saw the charger was ICE'd and he ran on it, got the key and moved the offending vehicle without asking! That's a pleasant contrast from our local Chevy dealer. A friend wanted to buy a Volt. The

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread Willie via EV
On 7/11/20 11:22 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: The last time I took our Leaf to the local Nissan dealer, the charging spot was ICE'd with the dealer's cars. When I asked if I could charge, they said, "No, we don't sell Leafs". Never mind that I bought my Leaf from them in 2013. I bought a Le

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread Peter Eckhoff via EV
Hi Lee I'm sorry to hear that. Dealers don't sell any oil changes and tune ups to EV owners. But I'm not sure of why the helpful Chevy dealer in Hickory, NC is different than one in Raleigh, NC When I went to buy a Bolt, there was a push by Sales to have us in anything but a Bolt. We didn't bu

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Jul 2020 at 11:22, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > It is gratifying for me to read about areas of the country where EVs > really are catching on, and becoming accepted and commonplace. But it's > still like the 1990's here. Sorry to keep rehashing this, but this is one of the big EV differences

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 11 Jul 2020 at 11:53, Willie via EV wrote: > I urge you to monitor Tesla developments with an eye to fitting one into your > budget. Aside from the perceived high prices, all other EVs pale in > comparison. I agree that they're well designed cars. I have some concerns about them that I've

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
> I bought a Leaf from a dealer in 2011. Of course, at that time, dealers were > by passed in the sales > process. The worst the dealer ever did to me is attempt to charge me for an > oil change. The Driver Information Display crapped out on my Volt so I took it in to be replaced. While I wa

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-11 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
> That's a pleasant contrast from our local Chevy dealer. A friend wanted to > buy a Volt. The dealer > claimed it wasn't available, so he showed them it was. Then they said they > didn't have any; so he > showed them GM's inventory list that said they did. They finally found the > car, buried w

Re: [EVDL] Long Range EVs, hybrids trade offs $18k (Corona Discount)

2020-07-12 Thread Willie via EV
On 7/11/20 6:53 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: Still, I'd consider a Tesla -- IF they'd build a car that suited my needs. The problem is, I don't need a large or midsize car. I don't want a sedan or an SUV. And right now, that's what Tesla makes. What I'd look at is a subcompact (B-c