I'm on the Octopus Energy 'Agile' tariff, which means my electricity
price tracks the wholesale price every half hour. I have 3Kw of PV
installed facing roughly South and a further 1.2Kw split East-West. I
recently had a 5.6KWh grid tied battery installed. I just had my 7th
'plunge pricing' alert o
benefit of backup batteries is a good
investment in cleaner air.
Thanks
Bob
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er benefit.
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From: EV On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 9:55 AM
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At some point, we're going to need lots of grid storage. Right now, the
substation, energy
> plant.
>
> Peri
>
> << Want to know about the effects of leaf blowers ?
> https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>
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> From: "paul dove via EV"
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ramowitz via EV
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I will partly agree.
I doubt that it will be free, nothing ever is, even if free would still make
sense.
Yes, I agree that we will need a lo
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On 5/19/20 11:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
> People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use
> their big
mplex, substation,
>> energy plant.
>>
>> Peri
>>
>> << Want to know about the effects of leaf blowers ?
>> https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "paul dove via EV"
>> To: "
V On Behalf Of Jay Summet via EV
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On 5/19/20 11:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use
their big battery to
On 5/19/20 11:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use
their big battery to run their house when the grid goes down. Oops, this
would kill sales of their powerwall.
I would love to have a powerwall (or two) which would give me
er, a home battery is not of much value.
Bob
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Many places already nee
battery purchases to help bring long
> term costs down, but that is something like a 2nd or 3rd order benefit.
>
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> Subject: Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G
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>> I would consider it if I had a million mile battery also if Tesla owned the
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At some point, we're going to need lots of grid storage. Right now, the mix
of wind and solar is relatively low. But as that increases, we'll need
storage capacity to span non generative periods. During transition,
eaf blowers ?
https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
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Sent: 20-May-20 7:00:32 AM
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Sent: 20-May-20 5:03:34 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G
I would consider it if I had a million mile battery also if Tesla owned the
battery so that when the range
I would consider it if I had a million mile battery also if Tesla owned the
battery so that when the range dropped I get it replaced free.
You can save a lot of money with DIY or just owning your own power generation
maybe in the long run but lots of people will pay more gladly if someone else
V2G smells a lot like time of use metering. Too many utilities push TOU
hard, especially in Europe, and then the residents discover that they've
been bamboozled. Despite paying for timers (and often electricians to
install them), they end up paying MORE for electricity. The utilities just
do
People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use
their big battery to run their house when the grid goes down. Oops, this
would kill sales of their powerwall.
On 5/19/2020 9:28 PM, evln via EV wrote:
Here what I was going to post, read:
https://electrek.co/2020/05/19/tesl
It’s worth posting Tesla’s view on this subject, which come close to my own
views. Some here have convinced me that there *may* be some value for some
consumers. Presumably if there isn’t enough value for enough people, we’ll find
out pretty quickly. Hopefully that will occur without too much in
Here what I was going to post, read:
https://electrek.co/2020/05/19/tesla-bidirectional-charging-ready-game-changing-features/
Tesla quietly adds bidirectional charging capability for game-changing new
features
May. 19th 2020 ... Both CEO Elon Musk and cofounder and former CTO JB
Straubel have exp
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