On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:
Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied
consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations,
emulations, depictions, replications, representations etc. of
observations of the physical universe and its processes.
This
On 08 Jun 2012, at 19:30, Johnathan Corgan wrote:
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:45 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
This is a bit unclear. How is U and D distinguished from the
(absence of)
first person view?
I think this is actually the point--calculations of expected future
On Saturday, June 9, 2012 12:27:43 PM UTC+10, Brent wrote:
On 6/8/2012 7:02 PM, Pierz wrote:
I don't know, somehow this whole argument is not something I could take
seriously enough to get worked up over - too many what ifs piled up on other
what ifs. But I think I see a couple of
On 08 Jun 2012, at 20:52, Nick Prince wrote:
On Jun 8, 8:45 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Hi Nick,
This is a bit unclear. How is U and D distinguished from the (absence
of) first person view?
I've drawn the branches so that they represent a 3p viewpoint of
someone observing
On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:
Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied
consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations,
emulations, depictions, replications, representations etc. of
observations
On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:
Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied
consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations,
emulations,
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:
Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied
consciousness can (using computers)
On 9 June 2012 11:17, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Such a backtracking (proposed once by Saibal Mitra on this list) can also be
used to defend the idea that there is only one person, and that personal
identity is a relative illusory notion. We might be a God playing a
trick to
On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the following:
Using mathematics, computations and
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.06.2012 21:00 Pzomby said the
On Friday, June 8, 2012 1:36:31 PM UTC-7, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Jun 8, 3:00 pm, Pzomby htra...@gmail.com wrote:
Using mathematics, computations and symbols; human embodied
consciousness can (using computers) create models, simulations,
emulations, depictions, replications,
On 09.06.2012 18:07 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 09 Jun 2012, at 08:39, Evgenii Rudnyi
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 18:07 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 12:36 Bruno Marchal said the
On 09.06.2012 20:00 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 18:07 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 09.06.2012 14:06 Quentin Anciaux said the following:
2012/6/9 Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
On 9 June 2012 19:22, Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote:
No, I have meant
a) simulated computer
b) simulated myself (but not in a)
Now I consider a) and b). This is after all some instructions executed by
some Turing machine. It seems that there is no difference. How would you
define
On 09.06.2012 20:39 David Nyman said the following:
On 9 June 2012 19:22, Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru wrote:
No, I have meant
a) simulated computer
b) simulated myself (but not in a)
Now I consider a) and b). This is after all some instructions
executed by some Turing machine. It seems
On Jun 9, 12:08 pm, Pzomby htra...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for your input. Some of what you state I follow, but some I do
not, but I set that aside.
To further clarify: The best analogy as to what I was considering is the
role of DNA in biological processes. DNA is coded by/with
On 6/9/2012 3:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Imagine that you decide to kill yourself with an atomic bomb, so as to maximize your
annihilation probability. Then it might be that your probability of surviving in a world
where you are just not deciding to kill yourself is bigger than surviving from
On Jun 9, 11:17 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 08 Jun 2012, at 20:52, Nick Prince wrote:
On Jun 8, 8:45 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Hi Nick,
This is a bit unclear. How is U and D distinguished from the (absence
of) first person view?
I've drawn
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