Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

2014-10-01 Thread meekerdb
On 10/1/2014 8:31 PM, LizR wrote: Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they creep in all too easily...) But also facile distinctions are made: /ASLAN: Stoning and mutilation and those barbaric

Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

2014-10-01 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:31 AM, LizR wrote: > Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone > with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they > creep in all too easily...) > Which is of course another generalization :-) Sorry, couldn't help myse

Re: FW: generalizations_of_islam

2014-10-01 Thread LizR
Thank you, that's interesting (of course, it should be obvious to anyone with a few brain cells that facile generalisations are bad... but they creep in all too easily...) On 2 October 2014 15:56, Samiya Illias wrote: > The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the > question

Fwd: FW: generalizations_of_islam

2014-10-01 Thread Samiya Illias
The following link might be of interest. It addresses some of the questions raised on this forum about Islam. Samiya -- Forwarded message -- Subject: generalizations_of_islam Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 22:23:35 -0400 Good segment http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/09/30/rez

Non-Genetic Reproduction (telegony)

2014-10-01 Thread Kim Jones
Fly offspring can resemble their mothers' previous partner. Just rarely, a newspaper throws up something gobsmacking. From today's Sydney Morning Herald. Quoted here with absolutely no permission whatsoever. I'm sure this holds for humans as well. Flies and humans are both Turing emulable. This

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread meekerdb
This is why I find protein folding intriguing. I see the following possibilities: -> Molecular interactions entail an immense computational power; -> P = NP; -> We are constantly winning at quantum suicide. Am I missing something? P=/=NP doesn't mean that NP problems require "immense comput

RE: Gut bacteria are protected by host during illness

2014-10-01 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Interesting evidence that not only do animals rely on symbiotic microbiota for their health they actively assist their community of helpful microorganisms by feeding them special sugars they make during periods of illness to keep their beneficial flora and fauna from dying off. No life (form) i

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 01 Oct 2014, at 12:35, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > 2014-10-01 9:09 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes : > >> >> >> On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:32, John Clark wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> >> Computat

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Oct 2014, at 12:35, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-10-01 9:09 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes : On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:32, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Computationalism is the theory that the human brain is a computer, a type information pro

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Oct 2014, at 09:23, Torgny Tholerus wrote: LizR skrev 2014-10-01 01:44: On 1 October 2014 04:23, Platonist Guitar Cowboy > wrote: Ultrafinitism then: "set of all numbers is finite" and whatever weird logic they need to have numbers obey some weirder upper limit, and I heard they iss

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 Oct 2014, at 09:09, Telmo Menezes wrote: On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:32, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Computationalism is the theory that the human brain is a computer, a type information processing machine, and it postulates that thin

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:32, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> Computationalism is the theory that the human brain is a computer, a type information processing machine, and it postulates that thinking is a form of computing. But you can't have a br

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Sep 2014, at 04:05, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Russell Standish > wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 06:45:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 29 Sep 2014, at 02:22, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > >I introduced the term "urstuff" as a way of referr

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Sep 2014, at 02:19, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 06:45:51PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Sep 2014, at 02:22, Russell Standish wrote: I introduced the term "urstuff" as a way of referring to what is ontologically real. "primitive urstuff" is a tautology, of cou

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-10-01 9:09 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes : > > > On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:32, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> Computationalism is the theory that the human brain is a computer, a >> type information processing machine, and it postulates that th

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Torgny Tholerus
LizR skrev 2014-10-01 01:44: On 1 October 2014 04:23, Platonist Guitar Cowboy mailto:multiplecit...@gmail.com>> wrote: Ultrafinitism then: "set of all numbers is finite" and whatever weird logic they need to have numbers obey some weirder upper limit, and I heard they issue fines a

Re: MGA revisited paper + supervenience

2014-10-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
> On 30 Sep 2014, at 19:32, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >> Computationalism is the theory that the human brain is a computer, a >>> >> type information processing machine, and it postulates that thinking is >>> >> a form of computing.