Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread Jason Resch
Some more details in this article: https://fortune.com/2019/09/20/google-claims-quantum-supremacy/ Jason On Sat, Sep 21, 2019, 5:59 PM John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 4:27 PM Lawrence Crowell < > goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Since quantum computers are in a

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 4:27 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > Since quantum computers are in a superposition of various states a search > down a branching tree, say a search along a maze, can be done in a > superposition of states. This would appear to argue that a

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread Russell Standish
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 08:22:40AM -0400, John Clark wrote: > There is a rumor that a team of researchers at Google led by John Martinis > have > performed a calculation on a Quantum Computer in three minutes and 20 seconds >  that would have taken Summit, the most powerful conventional

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 7:29:08 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 6:23:18 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> There is a rumor that a team of researchers at Google led by John >> Martinis have performed a calculation on a Quantum Computer in three

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
QFT is an effective theory that explain neural activity too. Yes, to Penrose's microtubules, no, to Tegmark's objection that all quantum processes need to be done via sub-zero temps. What the implications for life are using this way of thinking, if anything, are, as always open to speculation. 

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Please consider that for QC to succeed, to be supreme, it will have to generate many more successful operations per sec, then, digital computers. It the successful ops that matter, otherwise, we be praising D-Wave to the skies, lauding their multi-thousand entanglements. I am suspecting that

A Logic of Direct Evidence

2019-09-21 Thread Philip Thrift
*A Logic of Direct Evidence* Sungwoo Park https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9f61/84a9492deb75d64209f1368d7860f851c1bd.pdf "This paper presents a system of modal logic that is capable of expressing the notion of normal proof within the system itself. That is, the system has a means for both

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I downloaded Carroll's book a few days ago. Will read it this weekend. Current physics research indicates that everything is entangled, which of course is the quantum, but the thinking of physicists is that every law emerged from a basic soup of entanglement.  -Original Message- From:

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread smitra
On 21-09-2019 18:54, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:43:57 AM UTC-6, smitra wrote: On 21-09-2019 14:52, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 6:40:50 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:29 AM Alan Grayson wrote: _> What I

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread smitra
On 21-09-2019 14:50, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 7:32:43 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:29 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: _> Has Carroll forgotten about effective theories? Even QFT is just an "effective theory". We use classical approximations to

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 10:43:57 AM UTC-6, smitra wrote: > > On 21-09-2019 14:52, Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 6:40:50 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:29 AM Alan Grayson > >> wrote: > >> > >>> _> What I don't

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread smitra
On 21-09-2019 14:52, Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 6:40:50 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:29 AM Alan Grayson wrote: _> What I don't understand is why a computer programmed to assume a superposition, say of two states, represents a system in

Re: What is Mechanism, Bruno style?

2019-09-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 4:02:09 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > I think he means one can replace a human brain and/or nervous system with > computer microchips and consciousness will be preserved, or perfectly > simulated so the person who says "Yes doctor", will awake from the

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 6:40:50 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:29 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> What I don't understand is why a computer programmed to assume a >> superposition, say of two states, represents a system in both states >> simultaneously

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 7:32:43 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:29 AM Bruce Kellett > wrote: > > *> Has Carroll forgotten about effective theories? Even QFT is just an >> "effective theory". We use classical approximations to quantum mechanics >> because

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 12:41:41 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is > > > John K Clark > I think the enforcers of "right speech" deleted my post which stated that the MWI was "hubris on

Re: Something Deeply Hidden

2019-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:35 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > *Just toss out the Schroedinger equation after the measurement and you > will have peace of mind. AG* Yes, just tossing out inconvenient facts can bring peace of mind and so can taking a tranquilizer, but if you want an approximation of the

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:29 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> What I don't understand is why a computer programmed to assume a > superposition, say of two states, represents a system in both states > simultaneously (which I find to be false for reasons previously stated), > would speed up any

Re: Something Deeply Hidden

2019-09-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 6:28:17 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:21 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 11:07:54 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> I've just finished Sean Carroll's new book "Something Deeply Hidden" >>> and I

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 7:29 AM Bruce Kellett wrote: *> Has Carroll forgotten about effective theories? Even QFT is just an > "effective theory". We use classical approximations to quantum mechanics > because they work -- not for ideological or philosophical reasons.* > Read the book, Carroll

Re: Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 6:23:18 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > There is a rumor that a team of researchers at Google led by John Martinis > have performed a calculation on a Quantum Computer in three minutes and > 20 seconds that would have taken Summit, the most powerful

Re: Something Deeply Hidden

2019-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:21 AM Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 11:07:54 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> I've just finished Sean Carroll's new book "Something Deeply Hidden" and >> I thought it was excellent, it makes the strongest case I've seen for the >> Many World's

Quantum Supremacy

2019-09-21 Thread John Clark
There is a rumor that a team of researchers at Google led by John Martinis have performed a calculation on a Quantum Computer in three minutes and 20 seconds that would have taken Summit, the most powerful conventional supercomputer in the world, 10,000 years to perform. The rumor started when a

Re: Something Deeply Hidden

2019-09-21 Thread Alan Grayson
On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 11:07:54 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > I've just finished Sean Carroll's new book "Something Deeply Hidden" and > I thought it was excellent, it makes the strongest case I've seen for the > Many World's view of Quantum Mechanics. > > John K Clark > Did he

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 9:10 PM John Clark wrote: > On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:07 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> *> Our decision are classical, so (even in the Everett quantum world) >> they do not "create new worlds”. I suspect Sean Carroll is quoted out of >> context, as indeed that is a

Re: Sean Carroll: Universe a 'tiny sliver' of all there is

2019-09-21 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:07 PM Bruno Marchal wrote: > *> Our decision are classical, so (even in the Everett quantum world) they > do not "create new worlds”. I suspect Sean Carroll is quoted out of > context, as indeed that is a mistake (a common one).* If there is one theme running

Long-Standing Problem of 'Golden Ratio' and Other Irrational Numbers Solved with 'Magical Simplicity' | Space

2019-09-21 Thread Samiya Illias
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/new-proof-solves-80-year-old-irrational-number-problem/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to