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infinite quantities. I gather that ultrafinitism still lacks a
rigorous foundation, however...
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not that it's
> irrelevant.
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Physicality in the thought experiment seems like a red herring to
me. We can just as easily consider running the duplicated
consciousnesses in virtual reality simulators of the two cities.
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o, in fact, notice that they've been teleported to
a different city, and recognise where they they've been teleported to.
Ie, W/M is a difference that makes a difference.
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page 147 of Theory of Nothing, I have
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> >>Methinks you are unnecessarily assuming transitivity again.
> >
> >No, I was just referring t
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> >However, we are being asked to consider two conscious states where the
> >conscious state differs by at least one bit - the W/M bit. Clearly, by the YD
>
hone ears, but I'm not convinced that is really
the source of your difficulty in understanding Bruno.
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> > I am not convinced that they are the only two possible
> > outcomes. Remember my skepticism of the Parfit Napo
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Am I missing something in the above? I haven't read the story you
refer to.
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to being the same person as A, in spite of the fact that B and C are
different people.
What is the problem with that point of view?
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> On 04 Jun 2016, at 03:17, Russell Standish wrote:
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> >>Only a measure on the existing computations.
> >>Of course, all this list is based on the idea that the overall
> >>theory sh
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> >Hmm - the "output" of the UD (ie UD*) is a very low complexity
> >object. The complexity you refer to is actually UD* seen fr
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> >On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 05:38:59PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >>>On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 3:58:11 AM UTC+10, John Clark wrote:
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PI satisfies this, then evolution operating on it will
generate plenty of complexity. It is a reasonable hypothesis, though
by no means proven, that evolution is the only possible sort of
process that can create complexity.
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Thanks Stathis, that's the one.
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> > A really interesting article I just read in New Scientist.
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> >
> >
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in brains, so that is a rather interesting result.
Not sure what the situation of complexity classes is with qunatum
computers. Wikipedia seems to indicate this is an open problem.
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P-hard, but all algorithms to date have been NP
(although efficaceous for practical sized problems), so this is
certainly interesting.
I'm not sure what the graph isomorphism problem has to do with
quantum chemistry n-body simulation, though, which is a horridly
combinatorial problem, even when doing H
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although there have been a number of plausible explanations that have
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;environments change much more quickly than that, I think.
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> >>I disagree. I do not think the quantum mechanics /ab initio/ is in
> >>any way pos
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> >>much less of qua
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 03:11:54PM -0500, John Mikes wrote:
> Russell, please: what is your take on "INTELLIGENT"?
Its a word describing cognitive ability. Not particularly well defined IMHO.
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>
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> >>>Biological theory says that sexual reproduction should halve the
> >>
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> > On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 08:22:13AM -0800, PGC wrote:
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> > > The questions are comp relate
me logic would indicate that incest should be very
evolutionary advantageous - which gives a potent clue as to what's
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think has been identified as the subjective - and the subjective is
possibly constrained to having to implement classical computation
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That's in full concordance with what I wrote :)
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> >>On 26/10/2015 5:01 pm, Russell Standish wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:40:4
On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 05:08:21PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote:
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> >>I think Carroll's Paradox (or 'What the Tortoise Said to Achilles')
> >>effectively
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> >Assuming computationalism, our everyday experience _is_ internal to the
> >system. That doesn't make it any less meaningful.
>
> I thin
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> >>I guess that you remember that I am not yet c
Tononi's
measure was at least normalised by the size of the system in question.
A system of a billion uncoordinated nand gates will produce very low
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Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be
conscious in any sense of the word. Hell - I have strong doubts about
ants, and they're massively more complex
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Occam's razor to eliminate
primitive physicality. I might be happy with this, but perhaps Bruce isn't.
Step 8 doesn't address this issue at all, as it seems inapplicable to
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OK. No problem with this. But my interest are in consciousness and
qualia
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To summarise, there appears to be two quite distinct questions here:
a) Given there are regularities in Nature, why is our mathematics so
effective. As Brent
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To summarise, there appears to be two quite distinct questions here:
a) Given there are regularities
of
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empirical data, but by a combination of Damuth's law and
the Hutchinson-MacArthur model, it is a power law, but with a higher
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was brought up saying
snuck, lit, dove rather than sneaked, lighted and dived,
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Am I missing a subtle joke, or did you forget to include a link? (Or is my
browser up the spout?)
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Eh? Why does that follow?
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Not at all. My suggestion is that there wouldn't be any partial
zombies, just
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intelligently and had a consciousness, one would have to assume it
to actually be the result of a consious process rather than the result
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Both Og and the daemon are deterministic but even if we ignore
chaos deterministic is not the same as predictable. A very simple program
can
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Free will is the ability to do something stupid. Nonrational.
OK fine free will is non-rational, in other words an event performed for NO
REASON, in other
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That might be the idea. It is difficult to get to this, though,
since the notion of primary materialism doesn't
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believe you use the word magic
in any of your papers on the MGA.
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For a
robust ontology, counterfactuals are physically instantiated,
therefore the MGA is invalid.
I don't see this. The if A then B else C can
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For a robust ontology, counterfactuals are physically instantiated,
therefore the MGA is invalid.
Can you elaborate on this? ISTM that counterfactuals aren't
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For a robust ontology
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Free will is the ability to do
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This was always why I found the fading qualia argument unconvincing -
in spite of being a died-in-the-wool functionalist.
Russell - just so you know
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Chalmer's fading quailia argument http://consc.net/papers/qualia.html
shows
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