Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-20 Thread Jason Resch
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: > On 2/20/2013 1:08 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > >> On 2/19/2013 8:08 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Stephen P. King >> wrote: >> >>> On 2

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-20 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/20/2013 1:08 AM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Stephen P. King mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote: On 2/19/2013 8:08 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Stephen P. King mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote: On 2/19/2013

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Feb 2013, at 23:19, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > On 2/19/2013 8:08 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > >> On 2/19/2013 12:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Fe

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/19/2013 11:16 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 2/19/2013 5:22 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Jason, It seems to me that the demi-gods would not be motivated to have Platonist-like ontologies. As I see things, only we of finite resources concoct such Platonist theories to give ourselves the ill

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread meekerdb
On 2/19/2013 5:22 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: Hi Jason, It seems to me that the demi-gods would not be motivated to have Platonist-like ontologies. As I see things, only we of finite resources concoct such Platonist theories to give ourselves the illusion of superpowers All it takes is t

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread meekerdb
On 2/19/2013 4:54 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:18 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 2/19/2013 2:12 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Res

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/19/2013 8:08 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Stephen P. King mailto:stephe...@charter.net>> wrote: On 2/19/2013 12:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist mailto:yann...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Tue, Feb 19,

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: > On 2/19/2013 12:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Jason Resch >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> >> >

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/19/2013 12:26 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist > wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Jason Resch mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@veriz

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 2/19/2013 2:12 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terre

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread meekerdb
On 2/19/2013 2:12 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren S

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Richard Ruquist > wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Jason Resch > wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >>

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> > >> On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: >

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: >>> >>> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: >>> >>> >>> If God is arithm

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: >> >> >> If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said >> about its "

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread meekerdb
On 2/18/2013 11:03 PM, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said about its "character"? I know from a for

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: > >> > >> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: > >> > >> > >> If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Feb 2013, at 08:03, Jason Resch wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective the answer is no

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Terren, Hi Brent, No, I don't have any desire to anthropomorphize those things you mentioned, but I think it's fair to say we are all wired to want to anthropomorphize things in general - especially things we can't predict that have some kind of impact on us, like the weather. That

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Feb 2013, at 22:18, meekerdb wrote: On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective the answer is nothing, because nothing formal can be said about truth. T

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Feb 2013, at 20:47, Terren Suydam wrote: If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said about its "character"? That it has a lot of imagination, is creative, and probably has some sense of humor. But none of this can be taken literally. Indeed, the notion o

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-19 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: >> >> >> If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said >> about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-18 Thread Jason Resch
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: > > > If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said > about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective the answer is > nothing, because nothing formal can be said about

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-18 Thread meekerdb
On 2/18/2013 5:40 PM, Stephen P. King wrote: On 2/18/2013 2:54 PM, John Mikes wrote: Terren, (without taking the connotation seriously) */"... if God did not have a sense of humor, could we exist?..." /* does that mean: we are just a joke? JM Who would be the one to laugh? "God is a com

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-18 Thread Stephen P. King
On 2/18/2013 2:54 PM, John Mikes wrote: Terren, (without taking the connotation seriously) */"... if God did not have a sense of humor, could we exist?..." /* does that mean: we are just a joke? JM Who would be the one to laugh? On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Terren Suydam mailto:terre

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-18 Thread Terren Suydam
Hi Brent, No, I don't have any desire to anthropomorphize those things you mentioned, but I think it's fair to say we are all wired to want to anthropomorphize things in general - especially things we can't predict that have some kind of impact on us, like the weather. That said, I don't have a pa

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-18 Thread meekerdb
On 2/18/2013 11:47 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said about its "character"? I know from a formal perspective the answer is nothing, because nothing formal can be said about truth. This is more of an informal question, and comes o

Re: the character of the god of comp

2013-02-18 Thread John Mikes
Terren, (without taking the connotation seriously) *"... if God did not have a sense of humor, could we exist?..." * does that mean: we are just a joke? JM On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Terren Suydam wrote: > > If God is arithmetical truth, then what if anything is there to be said > about its