Re: [Evolution] Truncating threads when replying to mail

2014-11-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 03:21 -0800, Craig Hartnett wrote: On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 12:10 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 02:40 -0800, Craig Hartnett wrote: After some research I realised that I think this is happening when a message I receive has a signature (with the --

Re: [Evolution] Keyring problems (again)

2014-11-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:00:48 + Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve wrote: About a week ago, Evo starting asking for my account password [...] every time I tried to send a message. That happens when Evolution assumes to have no bug, but that something is fishy with a (POP/)SMTP server connection

Re: [Evolution] Keyring problems (again)

2014-11-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:33:51 -0700 Bart montana_evolution_u...@hardinmt.us wrote: First, are you SURE your mail server is up and running correctly? Have you tried with a different MUA or have you tried a sendmail program, such as msmtp? In my experiences those work, when Evolution doesn't. JFTR

Re: [Evolution] Keyring problems (again) - SOLVED

2014-11-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:56:04 + Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve wrote: till the next time To version lock the evolution package and a few dependencies might put off the evil day. This is what I did for Arch Linux, where upgrades to new versions more often happen, than for most other distros.

Re: [Evolution] Evolution locks up

2014-11-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Happened on my machine too. My applications menu has got two launchers, one to launch Evolution and another that starts a script to run evolution --force-shutdown and after that to automatically launch Evolution again ;). I still didn't experience this issue when using Evolution 3.12.8 :), but

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-13 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:26:23 -0500 Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote: This is a big speculative jump True, it's speculative, but it's not completely made up out of thin air. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To

Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on openbox and JWM, if I run another resource hungry app. Ass a matter of fact, it happens if I run virtual box and Evolution at the same time. When using Claws instead of Evolution, there are no performance issues, so I guess it's GTK 3

Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 21:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on openbox and JWM, if I run another resource hungry app. Ass a matter of fact, it happens if I run virtual box and Evolution at the same time. When using Claws instead

Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:50:00 +0100 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 22:02 +0100, Harvey Nimmo wrote: On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 21:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I've got 4 POP accounts and experience the performance issue on openbox and JWM, if I run another resource

Re: [Evolution] Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:16:33 -0800 N B Day nb...@fastmail.fm wrote: Same basic setup here ... but no POP. It has all worked very well for me since I installed spamassassin (which doesn't get installed by default for some reason). Without spamassassin I would some times get a race condition

Re: [Evolution] Fedora 20 - Evolution - Gnome gui freezes

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-11-12 at 16:18 -0600, Gregory P. Ennis wrote: Sorry to ask a beginner question here, but what are the debug packages for evolution. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Debuginfo http://linux.die.net/man/1/debuginfo-install debuginfo-install packagname

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Evolution performance bottleneck

2014-11-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-11-13 at 04:27 +0100, Thomas Mittelstaedt wrote: evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list You may consider using something like fetchmail,

[Evolution] Reminder: Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-11-11 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-11-03 at 16:16 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 05:38:07 -0800 (PST) rosemont rosem...@gmail.com wrote: Just ran into the same symptom, and had it work after downgrading sqlite. I reported it to my distro's bug tracker and IIRC it's already fixed by upstream

Re: [Evolution] [solved] Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 05:38:07 -0800 (PST) rosemont rosem...@gmail.com wrote: Just ran into the same symptom, and had it work after downgrading sqlite. I reported it to my distro's bug tracker and IIRC it's already fixed by upstream, so the next release of Evolution likely doesn't suffer from

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Fast full-text search of e-mails?

2014-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 16:32:20 +0100 Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote: On Sun, 2014-11-02 at 18:22 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Searches with Evolution on my machine take hours That highly depends on account types (remote vs local) that you didn't mention. Local POP accounts. And it's also

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Fast full-text search of e-mails?

2014-11-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 01:39:20 +0100 Ángel González an...@16bits.net wrote: Adam Tauno Williams wrote: I doubt there is a MUA that is going to nicely handle full-text search of very large mailboxes. You really need an index to handle that type of search - and I am not aware of any MUA

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Fast full-text search of e-mails?

2014-11-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 12:04:20 -0500 Adam Seering aseer...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, When I try to search for a string in the full text of a message, the search takes a very long time. I haven't investigated closely, but based on how much disk activity I'm seeing, it looks like it's trying

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-10-30 at 08:09 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: As I said earlier, you cannot learn not-junk from the filters currently. Hi Milan, I must have missed this earlier. As long as I can unset the Junk flag, but bogofilter doesn't learn not-junk, it's ok for my needs. Thank you for the

Re: [Evolution] Forwarded Message text is not correct

2014-10-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=739386 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 13:31 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: JFTR with the current EVO version the label gets no color, with older versions I could add a label and give it a color. No, it still works, but as moving the line between the mail list and mail preview, there is an issue with the mouse

Re: [Evolution] [not solved] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 13:47 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 12:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I let Evolution delete the Junk folder at exit, this worked. After that I could access it. When new junk was received, I couldn't access the Junk folder again. At exit Evolution

Re: [Evolution] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 07:39 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: okay, so it is crashing when it tries to sort the messages in the folder. Could you enter the empty Junk folder, right-click the header (where is written From| Subject| Date | ...), select the Customize current view option and check what

Re: [Evolution] MAIL FROM timeout

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 09:22 +, Michelle wrote: Just did an update/upgrade. Still at 3.10.4. Looks like I'll have to stay here until the repos catch up. Thanks for the heads up, though. Now that I know there's an issue in this ball park, I know to sit and wait. Or you test, if building

Re: [Evolution] MAIL FROM timeout

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 10:56 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Now that I know there's an issue in this ball park, I know to sit and wait. That will be the next release of Ubuntu/Debian, unlikely that it will be upgraded within one release. However, did you check official backports? https

Re: [Evolution] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Turn off sorting Seemingly the Junk folder now always is accessible. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 11:35 +, Pete Biggs wrote: I think you've not got the idea of the Junk virtual folder. The folder doesn't actually exist. What it contains are references to all the messages in all the folders that are marked as Junk. So, you can't Move a message into the Junk

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 11:50 +, Pete Biggs wrote: I want Junk mail in the Junk folder, but Junk mail .ru in separated folders, one with .ru mails already marked as Junk and another with unknown .ru mails, because of the high amount of .ru mails that I receive with one of my accounts.

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 13:27 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 08:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The order of the filters in this case is unimportant Wrong. Your example #2 will not work as you might expect it due to * Move to folder On This Computer/Tmp unknown .ru/Junk .ru

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 13:27 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 08:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The order of the filters in this case is unimportant Wrong. Your example #2 will not work as you might expect it due to * Move to folder On This Computer/Tmp unknown .ru/Junk .ru

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 11:35 +, Pete Biggs wrote: I don't want to tell you how to run your life and feel free to ignore this. But if you seriously want use Evolution, or indeed Linux, in a production environment, then I would strongly advise you not to run a distro that chases latest

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 22:45 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: So to achieve to have the moved message marked as not-junk, you should first unset the Junk flag and only then move the message (your filter rule has actions in the opposite order). Action Unset, action Move and after that I could Set the

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 23:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-29 at 22:45 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: So to achieve to have the moved message marked as not-junk, you should first unset the Junk flag and only then move the message (your filter rule has actions in the opposite order

[Evolution] Forwarded Message text is not correct

2014-10-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
It is Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Filter issue Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 23:11:40 +0100 Mailer: Evolution 3.12.7 but it should be Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf

[Evolution] [solved] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

2014-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I let Evolution delete the Junk folder at exit, this worked. After that I could access it. When new junk was received, I couldn't access the Junk folder again. At exit Evolution again deleted it. Then I accessed the empty Junk folder and removed the column Location. When I received Junk again, I

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Two issues are likely one issue. I add three new activated message filters for incoming mails. 1. Tolerated .ru any of the following conditions Sender is f...@bar.ru Sender is b...@foo.ru Sender is fo...@r.ru Move to Folder On This Computer/Inbox 2. Tmp unknown .ru/Junk .ru Alice only all the

[Evolution] [perhaps not solved] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

2014-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 12:36 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I let Evolution delete the Junk folder at exit, this worked. After that I could access it. When new junk was received, I couldn't access the Junk folder again. At exit Evolution again deleted it. Then I accessed the empty Junk folder

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 13:40 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: 2. Tmp unknown .ru/Junk .ru Alice only all the following conditions Sender ends with .ru Junk Test Message is Junk Recipients contains ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Move to folder On This Computer/Tmp unknown .ru/Junk .ru Unset Status

Re: [Evolution] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

2014-10-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 11:39 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: Please install the packages containing the debug symbols and create a stacktrace/backtrace with the stored core dump file. (There should be a file `core.*`, containing the process ID 13377, somewhere on your system. Run `gdb -c

Re: [Evolution] Broken threading

2014-10-26 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-10-26 at 12:19 +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: [1] http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Fortunately this discussion doesn't reach a point were the following links are useful, but prophylactic (not helping as prevention against laryngitis):

Re: [Evolution] 3.12.7: Crash with segfault accessing the junk folder (was: Junk)

2014-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 11:39 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: Am Samstag, den 25.10.2014, 06:28 +0200 schrieb Ralf Mardorf: The Junk folder shoes one unread mail. If I click the Junk folder, Evolution segfaults while generating the message list. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ evolution [snip

Re: [Evolution] Restoring data to new HDD [OT]

2014-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 11:59 +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: If you break threading ... Nabble manages to follow the threads, why can't your mail client? Actually at least this last mail from you shows In-Reply-To:

Re: [Evolution] Broken threading (was: Restoring data to new HDD [OT])

2014-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 14:11 +0200, Paul Menzel wrote: Alpine is doing the right thing and uses the messages IDs from the *digest* message. But that is the *incorrect* message to reply to. I don't receive the Evo digest, but I remember that mailman digest's lists all mails in one mail's body.

Re: [Evolution] Restoring data to new HDD

2014-10-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 13:25 +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: ... If I sort by subject, I just see one other mail with the same subject and also no follow-ups. If I scroll through the received mails I find a few other mails

[Evolution] Junk

2014-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
The Junk folder shoes one unread mail. If I click the Junk folder, Evolution segfaults while generating the message list. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ evolution [snip] (evolution:13377): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_closure_unref: assertion 'closure-ref_count 0' failed Segmentation fault (core

Re: [Evolution] Junk

2014-10-24 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-25 at 06:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: The Junk folder shoes one unread mail. If I click the Junk folder, ^ shows ;) Evolution segfaults while generating the message list. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ evolution [snip] (evolution:13377): GLib-GObject

[Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, the following filter does only work, when I select Apply Filters, but not automatically for incoming mails. Incoming Find items which match: all the following conditions Sender ends with .ru Junk Test Message is Junk Recipients contains ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Move to folder On This

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 16:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi, the following filter does only work, when I select Apply Filters, but not automatically for incoming mails. Incoming Find items which match: all the following conditions Sender ends with .ru Junk Test Message is Junk Recipients

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 16:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 16:53 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi, the following filter does only work, when I select Apply Filters, but not automatically for incoming mails. Incoming Find items which match: all the following

Re: [Evolution] Filter issue

2014-10-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-10-23 at 18:51 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: Add Location column I started with adding the Location column, now I'm waiting for .ru junk, when needed they tend not to spam ;). I guess the location will show me if the messages are in the folder I set by the filter and it's just shown in

Re: [Evolution] PS: Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Ein Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:06:48 0200, Ángel González schrieb: Run: gdb evolution When it segfaults, use bt command to view the backtrace. You will need to recompile with debug symbols. Download the PKGBUILD, set options=(debug !strip) on it, and recompile with makepkg Hi, for Evo's

Re: [Evolution] PS: Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Oops, my bad :). [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ gdb evolution [snip] Reading symbols from evolution...done. (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/bin/evolution Got object file from memory but can't read symbols: File truncated. warning: Could not load shared library symbols for linux-vdso.so.1. Do

[Evolution] [solved] Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ gdb evolution [snip] Reading symbols from evolution...done. (gdb) run [snip] #1  0x7fffeea0ea3b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so.0 #2  0x7fffeea3f28f in ?? () from /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so.0 #3  0x7fffeea3f58e in ?? () from /usr/lib/libsqlite3.so.0 #4  

Re: [Evolution] [solved] Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1153385 Comment by Ralf Mardorf (Ralf) - Monday, 20 October 2014, 09:55 GMT The package from testing doesn't work on my install,that doesn't use packages from testing. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ evolution evolution: error while loading shared libraries: libicui18n.so

Re: [Evolution] [solved] Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I reported the bug as an Evolution bug https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42455 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

[Evolution] OT: Invisible nonsendable message.

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT: On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 13:23 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 09:14 -0300, Stephen Blake wrote: [...] Please don't hijack threads. When you have a new topic, compose a fresh message, don't just reply to an existing one. Even if you change the Subject line, it still

[Evolution] OT: Invisible unsendable reply.

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT: On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 11:32 -0300, Stephen Blake wrote: How can I hijack my own thread? You can't and didn't. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2014-October/thread.html Inside this thread, yours is listed: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:14:44 -0300 -

Re: [Evolution] OT: Invisible unsendable reply.

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 17:08 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: OT: On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 11:32 -0300, Stephen Blake wrote: How can I hijack my own thread? You can't and didn't. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2014-October/thread.html Inside this thread, yours is listed

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Invisible unsendable reply.

2014-10-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-10-20 at 16:10 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: If you turn on threading in Evo (Ctrl-T), then you will see what we mean. Or by taking a look at the archive: [Evolution] OT: Invisible nonsendable message., Ralf Mardorf [Evolution] Invisible unsendable reply., Stephen Blake Re

Re: [Evolution] PS: Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi,   the last time Evolution was opened and worked, I upgraded:   lxpolkit (0.1.0-3), it was replaced by lxsession (1:0.5.0-1), JFTR lxpolkit isn’t used sqlite (3.8.6-1 - 3.8.7-1), seems not to be related phonon-qt4 (4.8.0-1 - 4.8.1-1), seems not to be related   Then I closed Evolution and

[Evolution] Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, after upgrading Evolution, it doesn’t work anymore. Downgrading to the version that did work before, doesn’t solve the issue. I didn’t install the evolution plugins that seem to replace bogofilter and spamassassin. Unfortunately I didn’t find out, how to display the coredumps. For further

[Evolution] Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, after upgrading Evolution, it doesn’t work anymore. Downgrading to the version that did work before, doesn’t solve the issue. I didn’t install the evolution plugins that seem to replace bogofilter and spamassassin. Unfortunately I didn’t find out, how to display the coredumps. For

[Evolution] PS: Evolution 3.12.7 segmentation fault

2014-10-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
After reading this https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/42423 I perhaps should mention, that I _do not_ use GNOME. Evo completely fails on my machine, when using openbox. I can't test another WM right now, since Melt seems to need hours to finish a diff of .config/evolution and

Re: [Evolution] Migrate data from 2.28,3 to 3.10.4

2014-10-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 09:10 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: As for IMAP I don't feel a need for it and don't understand how it would help if I were to switch to it now. Because IMAP mail is held on a server somewhere so you don't have to worry about migrating the data to a new version. The OP

Re: [Evolution] Migrate data from 2.28,3 to 3.10.4

2014-10-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 01:59 -0700, Alexander Miller wrote: I do understand that but since I haven't been using it, it would be of no help now in migrating my existing data, most of which resides only on my machine. Unless I'm missing something? You're missing that you might need to do such an

Re: [Evolution] Migrate data from 2.28,3 to 3.10.4

2014-10-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 03:35 -0700, Alexander Miller wrote: Ralf/Pete: I'll consider which route to go. I have some bias against having my mail semi-permanently stored elsewhere than on my own machine. I know that's not entirely logical in some respects but still You can download from

Re: [Evolution] Problem with Evolution email client

2014-09-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 11:29 -0700, wpshooter wrote: I have not idea as to where to find size of an email Right click the From Subject Date line Customize current view... Fields Shown... [x] Size (IOW check the Size box) ___ evolution-list mailing

Re: [Evolution] I keep asking but I get no answer

2014-09-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 13:23 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: Any chance of answering this? ^ The OP means that the fonts are larger than 12 point. 10 to 12 point is an averaged font size. When scaling a line without a line break, nevertheless the line doesn't fit the width of the paper. I guess I've

Re: [Evolution] I keep asking but I get no answer

2014-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-09-27 at 16:08 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: It is frustrating. printing from evolution results in documents with fonts that are much too large. How do I change the size of the print font? I don't have a printer ready to test. What happens if you use File Print... Page Setup

Re: [Evolution] I keep asking but I get no answer

2014-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: Is it the same for HTML and plain text? Did you test a different driver/or different settings? Perhaps you should mention what printer and driver you're using. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or

Re: [Evolution] I keep asking but I get no answer

2014-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 13:22 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: I suspect the font sizes are chosen for plain text emails such that the standard 80 chars fits across the page. I think the same, perhaps 72 instead of 80 chars and fixed fonts vs proportional fonts, but it might be smarter to use a common

Re: [Evolution] I keep asking but I get no answer

2014-09-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: Edit Plugins [x] External Editor Configuration might be or might not be useful. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Need explanation of Evolution 3.10.4 error message on free memory

2014-09-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-09-17 at 06:50 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: If you can run evolution from a terminal window and open the `bad` message you may see something much more informative in the output to the terminal window. There already might be the information available in ~/.xsession-errors

Re: [Evolution] What could be wrong?

2014-09-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
:D If I would find a MUA that fit better to my needs I would drop Evolution. I'm not that happy as you are, when using evolution. I've got two menu entries: 1. Evolution, to launch evolution 2. Evo force shutdwon, to force a shutdown and to open it again Sometimes the automatically open Evo

Re: [Evolution] Where are my folders?

2014-09-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 20:56 +0200, Bärbel Kessenbrock wrote: Hi, I am using Evolution 3.10.4 at ubutu linux 14.04 LTS. After some unknown operations the folder structure E-Mail shows only At this PC search folder no emails, no the complete folders. If I select create folder I can see my

Re: [Evolution] Where are my folders?

2014-09-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 21:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 20:56 +0200, Bärbel Kessenbrock wrote: Hi, I am using Evolution 3.10.4 at ubutu linux 14.04 LTS. After some unknown operations the folder structure E-Mail shows only At this PC search folder no emails

Re: [Evolution] Where are my folfers?

2014-09-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 20:59 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Is the On this computer folder actually expanded? It should have a small triangle (or something like that, depending on your theme) in front of it. I guess it's that issue too, she likely missed the forest for the trees :D. Good to know

Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP

2014-09-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Why do people still use POP [...]? Because of the issues I experienced when using IMAP, such as receiving the messages two times. I never run into such evil issues when using POP. Once there are multiple copies of hundreds of emails in your private email archive, you can't get rid of those.

Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP

2014-09-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 09:37 -0400, Robert Seward wrote: I prefer POP with Evolution because it is more stable for me than IMAP. About half my accounts are POP and half are IMAP. +1 +1 None of my accounts is IMAP anymore :p. ___ evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Errors receiving mail via POP

2014-09-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 15:32 -0600, Bart wrote: So download it to your own computer using fetchmail or offline IMAP mode (or just dragging it between folders). IMAP doesn't force you to leave it on a server. There is no feature of POP which IMAP does not also have. Why perform an

Re: [Evolution] Errors receiving mail via POP

2014-09-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 12:45 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 13:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Why do people still use POP [...]? Because of the issues I experienced when using IMAP, such as receiving the messages two times. I never run into such evil issues when using

Re: [Evolution] line wrap in html preview

2014-08-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :) For demonstration I wrote endless lines. If you mark the endless line or lines and after that switch from Normal to Performatted (perhaps it already shows Performatted) and back to Normal, the line will get wrapped. Take a look at the selection box left beside the Plain Text/HTML

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Search Folders doesn't work

2014-08-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-08-02 at 13:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: It looks like you're creating a rule but not applying it. Filter rules are applied only on new messages, or when you explicitly invoke them using Message-Apply Filters (Ctrl-Y). There also is Edit Search Folders instead of Edit

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Editing a contact closes Evolution

2014-08-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-08-02 at 15:22 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: On Wed, 2014-07-23 at 13:02 -0400, Joe Messing wrote: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Evolution 3.2.3 When I try to edit an email address in an existing contact, After hitting close, Evolution goes dark and shuts down. Stacktrace welcome:

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Search Folders doesn't work

2014-08-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-08-02 at 15:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2014-08-02 at 13:29 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: It looks like you're creating a rule but not applying it. Filter rules are applied only on new messages, or when you explicitly invoke them using Message-Apply Filters (Ctrl

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.13.3

2014-07-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, there's a reason why I reply using HTML ;). I guess it's not the fault of the OP, but likely an Evolution bug. One of the HTML lines is endless: On Tue, 2014-07-15 at 08:25 +1000, Wasserland wrote: 3.13 seems to have some formatting quirkiness that makes me a little uncomfortable.

Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.13.3

2014-07-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: The endless lines aren't endless (anymore) and I was mistaken, they even were not endless in my Evo's editor, I'm not used to HTML without line breaking, just the OP's line really is endless, IOW scrolling from left to right is needed. ___

Re: [Evolution] disabling junk plugin

2014-06-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-06-28 at 07:35 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: Not being familiar with Arch, I don't know how to examine their build script for Evolution (short of installing the distro) to see how they're getting around this. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -hAld /var/abs/extra/evolution* drwxr-sr-x

Re: [Evolution] Issue with Address Lookup Collection with EWS

2014-06-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-06-25 at 20:07 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Now that you've explained that it's 3.13.x, we can see that it's an unreleased version (the latest stable release currently being 3.12.2) Really? [arch-general] Why doesn't the evolution package version follow the stable release

Re: [Evolution] Unable to send mail

2014-06-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-22 at 10:59 -0500, Bob wrote: I've attached a screen shot that shows the problem(s) I'm having. What exactly are you unable to understand? The message of the screenshot says exactly the same as the quote in the first reply to your request, that by the way was sent by me:

Re: [Evolution] Unable to send mail

2014-06-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-06-21 at 21:15 -0500, Bob wrote: I've lost the ability to send/reply. Does Evolution display an error message? Do you receive a postmaster reply? Server Authertication is unchecked https://startpage.com/ Search term: smpt.windstream.net Third hit: Incoming and Outgoing mail

Re: [Evolution] Unable to retrieve message.

2014-06-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-17 at 20:51 +0200, Svante Signell wrote: ping A short advice. IMHO even man ping is hard to understand, at least for using it to troubleshoot the issue the OP is experiencing. Please reply more detailed, IOW how to use ping to troubleshoot this particular problem. I'm using ping

Re: [Evolution] Specifying the font typeface

2014-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 03:47 -0600, Bart wrote: It's lots more fun to watch the users argue with each other about crappy looking messages than it is to explain to them about why that happens and have them not believe you! We shouldn't make jokes about it. Those end-users should become aware

Re: [Evolution] Specifying the font typeface

2014-06-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 10:15 +0100, Andrew Beverley wrote: I know it's better not to do so, but that's difficult to sell to an end-user when it can be done in other MUAs. Are those end-users aware that the recipient anyway has not the same fonts installed and that the mail by hook or by crook

Re: [Evolution] Specifying the font typeface

2014-06-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 03:47 -0600, Bart wrote: It's lots more fun to watch the users argue with each other about crappy looking messages than it is to explain to them about why that happens and have them not believe you! We shouldn't make jokes about it. Those end-users should become aware

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: Error occurred while sending after enabling Google 2-step authentication [with solution]

2014-06-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 12:40 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote: ... and the first place was the file dropdown-menu, where (in my version) something like drop all passwords is resident ? And your version is Evolution 2.28.3 ;). ___ evolution-list mailing list

[Evolution] OT: Specifying the font typeface

2014-06-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 11:58 +0100, G.W. Haywood wrote: I still have Letraset and Mecanorma in stock. :) I've still got those letters too, but they can't be used anymore, because the carrier layers crumble. I wonder if the screen tones I still own, are still usable. However, HTML for emails is

Re: [Evolution] Specifying the font typeface

2014-06-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 13:16 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: Well, I think that defining generic classes like serif or sans-serif would be acceptable at least. :) If possible, choosing between fixed font and proportional font would be good too (perhaps it won't really work with HTML ;), but usually

Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 11:10 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: I believe an ideal solution is to provide a link to some public server with your uploaded executable, rather than attach it to an email, but I also agree that it's not always possible. Sending them in a password protected archive should do

Re: [Evolution] [Bulk] Re: attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 11:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Sending them in a password protected archive should do the job. Using openPGP for the attachments should be ok too. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list

Re: [Evolution] attached mail files seems to be corrupt

2014-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 10:46 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: Super secret get rich fast scam: just open attached super secret file, password is IamGullible. :D Ok, sounds plausible to rejects password protected archives, but openPGP encrypted attachments should be allowed.

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